Oct 11, 1997
NY Rangers - Vancouver6-3 

Summary Of Events
1  37:40  Fight  Graves-Staios
2  48:14  Fight  Cairns-Brashear
3  48:14  Rough  Langdon-Brashear
4  53:11  Fight  Langdon-Odjick
5  57:49  Fight  Keane-Walker

Fight at 37:40
HeightWeightPunchesBlood
Duration 0:39ThrownLanded   Big   
 Adam Graves 6'0'' 1205lb 51310None
 Steve Staios 6'1'' 1200lb 5810
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 SarcasticPillow
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Jan 4, 2014 11:28 ET
Draw Fun 
4
Wayne Gretzky scores a nice breakaway goal and on the ensuing faceoff, Adam Graves and Steve Staios drop the gloves. They grab on and grapple to the boards where Staios misses a right after Graves misses a right. Graves misses four rights and then Staios misses a right before Graves throws four rights, landing one to the side of the head. Staios ducks away and then misses a right before Graves misses two rights. Staios misses a right and then loosens his right up and gets rid of his elbow pad as they keep grappling. Staios misses two rights and then ducks under Graves' arm to get outside. Staios throws three rights and lands one to the head while getting inside. Graves misses two rights and then then linesmen step in. Fairly dull middleweight fight. This was mostly grappling with both guys locked out. They each got a single right in so I call it a draw.
 BattleshipRules
13335 fight reviews

Jul 6, 2015 08:44 ET
Draw Fun 
3
This was a poor scrap. Graves missed a few punches and landed an average right. Staios missed several blows. Adam landed a partial connect. Steve missed two punches, landed a decent blow, and missed a shot. Graves missed two punches. The refs stopped the fight. I rate this as a draw. Neither man was able to reach the target often or land with much authority.
Jocke
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Apr 23, 2005 15:51 ET
Adam Graves narrow win Fun 
5
Not much to see here, they both throw quite a few punches but it never gets interesting..
Zdeno
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Apr 9, 2007 19:59 ET
Adam Graves narrow win Fun 
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Buffalogotcheated99
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Apr 21, 2009 16:24 ET
Draw Fun 
4
michiann
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Sep 20, 2011 08:13 ET
Draw Fun 
N/A
They got each other locked up, so nothing lands. Draw.
mullet
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Oct 12, 2014 16:59 ET
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itsJ.Millertime
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Jan 23, 2016 13:38 ET
Draw Fun 
4
Both guys land a couple.
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mrfeeny
Mar 14, 2007 02:08 ET
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Fight at 48:14
HeightWeightPunchesBlood
Duration 0:48ThrownLanded   Big   
 Eric Cairns 6'6'' 3243lb 61061None
 Donald Brashear 6'3'' 3237lb 61782
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May 10, 2007 16:01 ET
Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
7
They lock up at the buzzer. Cairns lands a good uppercut that knocked off Brashear's helmet. Cairns followed with four rapid shots. They wrestled for a while Cairns threw a right missing it. Brashear then tugged Cairns and threw a punch that was blocked. Brashear tried some rapid shots sneaking in a big uppercut. Brashear then got his arm loose and started taking it to Cairns with body shots rapid shots and crosses. Cairns got out of his jersey and threw a punch as they broke apart. Cairns charged Brashear and slipped which was hilarious. Cairns got up and got a hold of Brashear where he landed a right. Cairns then landed some short uppercuts as Brashear pressed him against the glass. The linesmen then came in.

Edge to Brashear for his big flurry.
 VipersLad
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Mar 6, 2010 11:08 ET
Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
7
Eric Cairns vs. Donald Brashear / Oct 11, 1997

Brashear and Cairns have the gloves off behind the net and Cairns has Brashear off balance. Cairns gets a good uppercut on Brashear that knocks his helmet off and Cairns follows up with a shot to the side of Brashear's head. Cairns threw a couple more but neither landed and Brashear was just holding on in the early stages. Cairns then pushed Brashear back towards the boards and landed a left.

Brashear then pulled Cairns forwards and threw two lefts, possibly landed with the first and missing the second. Brashear then got in close again but quickly got two more lefts away with the first looking to land but not with any real power. Brashear jousted for position before getting a hard uppercut away on Cairns who's helmet came flying off. Cairns then bowed his head and Brashear tried to get a couple more shots away.

Brashear then started unloading with the rights connecting with two hard shots to the side of Cairns' head, Brashear then landed another good left on Cairns who was having trouble with the jersey. Cairns then threw a wild left at Brashear who lost his grip of Cairns as his jersey came clean off. Cairns immediately went back at Brashear but fell to his knees as he did so.

Cairns looked very aggressive as he went at Brashear again, Brashear landed a light left to the top of his head as they made contact but Brashear then missed with a wild left before wrestling Cairns into the boards. Cairns tried to get a couple more shots away at Brashear while the lino's were in, they were parting when Cairns said something to Brashear who threw a wild left at Cairns over the officials.

Brashear threw him and the official off balance and Cairns skated away, Brashear earns a edge in this fight as he was bettering the fight during the middle. Cairns had the edge at the beginning but Brashear landed some good shots after Cairns' jersey came over. Brashear gets the edge in this one.

Narrow win Brashear.
 CDD
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Jan 20, 2012 21:20 ET
Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
7
It looks like Cairns is roughing up a Canuck in the corner and Brashear comes in to challenge Cairns. They drop the gloves and grab right on, the only time these two didn't square off in their three fights. Cairns starts it off with with right hands, the second being a very solid uppercut that knocks Brashear's helmet flying. Brashear gets in tight and they start to wrestle, Brashear gets his left hand free and lands a very good left uppercut of his own while Cairns wrestles him up against the boards. Brashear gets free and starts to whale on Cairns with left hands, Cairns can't seem to get anything going as he bobbles all over the ice taking punches from Brashear. Cairns then slips out of his jersey and falls backwards to the ice. He quickly jumps off and they go at it again with Brashear quickly landing a left hand. They then wrestle again up against the boards.

The refs start to make there way in and Cairns tries a few cheap shots while they are breaking up the fight, he lands maybe 2 of 3 shots he throws but then Brashear counters with a punch of his own that comes up short as the refs finally get them apart.

As Brashear is skating to the penalty box it looks like him and Langdon have some words (I'm guessing about the last shot Brashear threw) and Langdon then comes flying in after Brashear and they try to fight each other but the referees keep them separated.

Brashear definitely Won this first round of the three battles these two had over the years.
 SarcasticPillow
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May 5, 2012 14:49 ET
Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
7
Eric Cairns is grabbed by Donald Brashear in the corner and the two drop the gloves without any hesitation. They wrestle around in close and then Cairns lands a right uppercut that knocks Brashear's helmet off. Cairns follows up with three short, weak, rights and lands two of them. They pause as they keep wrestling but then Cairns stands back from Brashear and switches hands. Then Cairns misses a left cross and Brashear returns with two lefts, landing one before getting back in close. Brashear then throws two left hooks and lands one, then lands a left uppercut that knocks Cairns' helmet off. Brashear then misses a left before throwing two left uppercuts and landing one while Cairns ducks away. Brashear throws four lefts after and lands two as Cairns stands back. Brashear switches hands and misses a right uppercut and a right hook as Cairns' jersey comes off. Cairns gets his left out of the jersey and grabs at Brashear who ducks, lets go, and backs away. Cairns pursues Brashear but trips on the jersey. Brashear then grabs back onto Cairns as he bounces back to his feet and loses the jersey completely. Brashear then misses a big, sweeping, left hook as Cairns lands a right hook and then Cairns misses a follow up right while Brashear gets in close. Brashear drives Cairns into the glass and then they pause. The linesmen start to move in as Cairns lands a right cross and then lands two lefts over the linesmen on Brashear. Brashear pauses and then lands a left over the linesmen which gets them broken apart. Darren Langdon doesn't like the move and grabs at Brashear as he's going off though the linesman keeps Brashear away. Good, entertaining, fight between these two big heavyweights. Cairns did well early but had trouble getting going later in the fight. Brashear took control in the middle portion of the fight and landed slightly more and more effectively than Cairns did. Edge Brashear.
 BattleshipRules
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May 22, 2014 16:56 ET
Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
7
This was a good action fight. Cairns landed a pretty good shot and two decent blows. He missed a right hand and landed a solid left. Brashear missed two blows and landed an average left. He landed two solid punches, two body blows, and two solid connects.

Donald missed a punch and landed an average blow. Eric missed a left and landed a solid right. Brashear wrestled a bit. Cairns landed a couple of light raps before the refs stopped the contest.

I rate this as a narrow win for Brashear. He landed with a bit more frequency and had a slight numerical edge in power shots. Cairns landed a few power blows and it was a very close and competitive contest.
 hb11
4863 fight reviews

Aug 14, 2006 06:10 ET
Draw Fun 
8
Cairns lands a nice uppercut early and knocks Brashear's helmet off. He throws a few more and then Brashear starts throwing. Brash misses a lot or hits shoulder pad as Cairns ducks away from many of the punches but one solid uppercut does get through and Cairns does lose his helmet and soon after his jersey. Cairns stumbles as he goes back at Brash, who now has nothing to grab onto and they move toward the endboards when the officials start to intervene. Cairns lands a nice right cross inside and throws a couple of noogies. Brashear throws one more big punch over the top of the officials but hard to say if it landed due to the camera angle. As Brash skates off, he takes a few gloved pops from Langdon before he safely exits the ice surface. Lots of animosity in this one. Very entertaining.
 Oneill.the.Giant
11346 fight reviews

Nov 23, 2008 20:21 ET
Donald Brashear clear win Fun 
8
These two drop the gloves behind the play, Cairns lands a good right upper cut to start that knocks Brashears helmet off and Cairns then lands two quick short rights to Brashears head. Brashear grabs onto Cairns and they wrestle about for a few seconds, Cairns gets Brashear up against the boards and throws a right that graises the top of Brashears head. Brashear then pulls his left arm free and throws eight punches to the side of Cairns head and body and then lands a straight left and a left upper cut.

At this stage Cairns looks in trouble, Cairns is covering up and then some how gets out of his jersey and they brake apart for a second. Cairns then goes for Brashear but slips and Brashear gets a left punch in, Cairns is up quickly and grabs on to Brashear.

Brashear is pushing Cairns up against the boards, the lino's come in and the fight looks to be over. Cairns then lands two lefts to the top of Brashears head while the lino's are in between them, so Brashear then throws a big right over the top that catch Cairns and gets a cheer from the crowd. Finally the two are split apart, and skate to the penalty boxes.

As Brashear is skating off Darran Langdon comes skating in, he throws a gloved punch at Brashear but the lino's and other players get between the two and Brashear skates off to the bench.

This is a clear win Brashear as he is in control of the fight, Brashear lands the best punches and has Cairns in trouble at a stage of the fight.

Clear win Brashear.
Jocke
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Apr 23, 2005 15:57 ET
Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
8
Angry fight, Cairns gets the first half when things are quite relaxed. But then they both get mad and starts throwing wildly. Even when the linesmen come in they still throw 'em.
After the fight, when Brashear is on his way to the box, Langdon comes rushing in! and wants to fight Brash as well. They both throw punches between the linesmen but its over pretty fast. Quite funny..
gooftick
663 fight reviews

Nov 4, 2005 22:42 ET
Eric Cairns narrow win Fun 
8
cairns wins this one then the refs come in to break it up and you think the fight is over but brashear throws a totaly unexpected shot at cairns.
Joonibal
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Nov 18, 2005 17:59 ET
Eric Cairns narrow win Fun 
7
Cairns starts off with a few rights that land, including an uppercut that knocks Brashear's helmet off. Brashear then immediately does his huggy thing to catch his breath or something. He then throws a lot of lefts that don't seem to land solidly (except one or two--one of which that knocks Cairns' helmet off as well) because Cairns is smartly leaning his head away from Brashear's left. But Brashear adjusts, changes hands and lands a right uppercut solidly on Cairns. Cairns then loses his jersey and slips to his knees. When he gets up, Cairns throws a huge right that seems to land and snaps Brashear's head side ways. Brashear then does his huggy thing again and huggies Cairns to the boards, at which point the officials break it up.

Brashear also lands a sucker left while the officials have them separated; as a result, Langdon skates over and barrels into Brashear as he skates over to the penalty box.
lilburtis9363
1093 fight reviews

Aug 11, 2006 15:36 ET
Draw Fun 
8
good fight, cairns lands some hard rights knocks brash's helmet off, then brash lands some hard left knocking off cairns helmet, then cairns lands a huge right snapping brashear's head back, brashear throws a ton of lefts, a few land..i give this a draw possibly slight edge to cairns
NP19133
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Dec 15, 2006 14:13 ET
Donald Brashear clear win Fun 
7
Brashear threw and landed twice as many punches as Cairns did. The Rangers commentators even said Brashear won the fight. Everyone got mad at Brashear for throwing that punch after the fight was over, but what about Cairns throwing 3 punches at Brashear when he had his arms tied up by the linesmen, that's why he threw that last punch. Oh yea I almost forgot about the large number of people who don't like Brashear.
ScrappyDoo
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Jan 19, 2008 13:38 ET
Draw Fun 
7
FlagsFan
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Apr 23, 2008 16:05 ET
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Buffalogotcheated99
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Apr 21, 2009 16:12 ET
Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
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mullet
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Jan 31, 2010 08:44 ET
Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
7
Spirited HW bout. Cairns did surprisingly well here considering he wasn't even close of being a top10 fighter in his Rangers days while Brashear was perhaps the #1 in the league at the time. It was Cairns early, then Brashear recovered and landed some of his own. They separated, went at it again before the linesmen stepped in. It looks like a Brashear win but when you look at it closely, he didn't really land much more than Cairns, it was actually very close of being a draw, but still an edge to Brashear for landing a bit better.
TheDanLine
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Jun 25, 2012 14:59 ET
Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
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FightsOfHockey
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Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
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TieDomiFan
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Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
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michiann
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Mar 7, 2014 20:16 ET
Draw Fun 
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FrAn6
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Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
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Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
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itsJ.Millertime
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Jan 23, 2016 13:37 ET
Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
7
Very good fight, both guys land some nice blows but Brashear looks to land slightly more and gets the win.
supersonic
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Feb 4, 2017 07:30 ET
Donald Brashear narrow win Fun 
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T800m101
Dec 20, 2007 21:59 ET
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TheDanLine
Mar 6, 2010 10:35 ET
No, it isn't.Reply
davebrownowns
Aug 7, 2011 15:15 ET
Yes it is draw for cairns and cairns beat him badly in the other fightsReply
TheDanLine
Aug 7, 2011 21:50 ET
Brashear beat him twice, Cairns won once. Cairns never beat Brashear badly.Reply
FrAn6
Feb 16, 2012 09:01 ET
I can't believe N.Y. Rangers had Cairns-Langdon-Vandenbussche in the same line-up.
Damn! Don't mess with that team, lol.
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TheDanLine
Feb 16, 2012 10:06 ET
Canucks had Brashear, Odjick, and McAllister, that's even tougher.Reply
FrAn6
Feb 16, 2012 15:27 ET
Oh! I didn't know for McAllister. I would not go so far as to say that they are tougher.
In term of equality, I would say Langdon can handle with big Brash without any problems. For proof, he (Langdon) manages to have a draw against him. Cairns is also the same caliber than McAllister, same as Vandenbussche versus Odjick.
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TheDanLine
Jun 25, 2012 15:01 ET
In terms of enforcing/fighting, the Canucks were better than the Rangers.Reply
EC
Jun 26, 2012 13:34 ET
Quote from message by StormShadow
In terms of enforcing/fighting, the Canucks were better than the Rangers.
In the 1997-1998 season the Rangers had Langdon, Cairns, VandenBussche, Stock, and Beukeboom on their roster. Vancouver had Brashear, Odjick, McAllister, Walker, Staios, and Scatchard. I'd say the two teams were evenly matched in this season.
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TheDanLine
Jun 26, 2012 13:50 ET
Langdon was overrated, too much grappling and pillow punching, also he's not intimidating. Cairns, while very good, was still raw and wasn't the force he became on Long Island. Vandenbussche and Stock were both very game, but again they weren't very intimidating. Beukeboom was a phony tough guy. The Canucks had better quality heavyweights and were more intimidating.Reply
EC
Jun 26, 2012 13:53 ET
Quote from message by StormShadow
Langdon was overrated, too much grappling and pillow punching, also he's not intimidating. Cairns, while very good, was still raw and wasn't the force he became on Long Island. Vandenbussche and Stock were both very game, but again they weren't very intimidating. Beukeboom was a phony tough guy. The Canucks had better quality heavyweights and were more intimidating.
The only one on Vancouver that was truly intimidating (in my opinion) was Brashear. Odjick was tough but not intimidating. McAllister wasn't really dominant at this point and the likes of Staios and Scatchard are not intimidating at all. But to each his own.
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TheDanLine
Jun 26, 2012 14:25 ET
Odjick wasn't as intimidating as Brashear, but in terms of enforcing, he was far and away better than Langdon, Stock, Vandenbussche, and at the time, Cairns. McAllister was good at this point, not as good as when he was with Philly, but still a force.Reply
lilburtis9363
Jan 7, 2013 21:58 ET
For some reason it skips langdon/odjickReply
FrAn6
Aug 11, 2013 09:25 ET
Quote from message by StormShadow
Odjick wasn't as intimidating as Brashear, but in terms of enforcing, he was far and away better than Langdon, Stock, Vandenbussche, and at the time, Cairns. McAllister was good at this point, not as good as when he was with Philly, but still a force.
LOL! Such a stupid comment. Odjick way better than Langdon? Is it for this reason Langdon TKO'ed him? Langdon is a way better fighter than Odjick. Furthermore, Langdon is one of the most underated fighter of all-time. This guy has beat Berube, Probert, Sandy McCarthy, Paul Laus, Rob Ray, Reed Low, etc. He earned a draw versus Laraque, Brashear, Parker, Worrell.
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TheDanLine
Aug 11, 2013 10:03 ET
No, it's not a stupid comment. Langdon wasn't intimidating at all, he was a grappling pillow puncher. Odjick was far more intimidating compared to Langdon. You never know when Odjick was gonna go nuts. Langdon was not a better fighter than a prime Odjick. He got lucky this night.Reply
FrAn6
Aug 11, 2013 21:51 ET
Okay! Maybe you don't like Langdon's style because of those pillow puches. So what? He was a very smart fighter with a one of the best stamina ever...just watch his fight versus McSorley. Maybe less intimadating than Odjick because he is not a crazy with mental issues but when it comes to defend himself or his teammates he was very good.
Anyway, I don't want continue to debate with you to know who was better between Odjick and Langdon. You have your opinion, I have mine.
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zolika
Aug 12, 2013 01:40 ET
I have to agree with StormShadow in this case. Odjick was pretty much done at this point, I think he had back problems. A prime Odjick (1990-94) was a Top 5 fighter, Langdon never was. Stylistically Langdon was a tough fight for anybody, but Odjick in his prime won more convincigly against the same competition.

Langdon was a great fighter, no doubt, but Odjick had a more impressive career.
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EC
Aug 12, 2013 23:39 ET
Quote from message by zolika
I have to agree with StormShadow in this case. Odjick was pretty much done at this point, I think he had back problems. A prime Odjick (1990-94) was a Top 5 fighter, Langdon never was. Stylistically Langdon was a tough fight for anybody, but Odjick in his prime won more convincigly against the same competition.

Langdon was a great fighter, no doubt, but Odjick had a more impressive career.
I disagree with Stormshadow and you on this. I certainly respect both of your opinions and I can see where you are coming from, but I think you two are downplaying Langdon's fighting ability. Odjick was certainly a top enforcer and was the more wilder of the two but Langdon was one of the smartest fighters to ever play. Furthermore he had arguably the best stamina out of all the NHL tough guys. (For the record I'm not trying to start anything with either of you like some users on this site do with people, I just want to have an honest discussion).

Looking at their fight cards I think the argument can be made that Langdon was the better fighter. In his career he defeated Probert twice (Odjick never fought him), McCarthy twice, Berube, Baumgartner, Oliwa twice, Belanger, and Vial twice. He also had names like Leroux, Laus, Odelein, Kruse, Simpson, Low, Boulton, and Doull on his card.

Odjick beat Twist (although he had to resort to jumping him to do so), Gaetz (although there is some debate about that and some would call it a draw) Peluso, Odgers, McRae, King, DeBrusk, Kypreos, Byers, Kennedy, Karpa, and Bonvie. Both men beat Grimson and Domi once (and lost a few times to them), Baumgartner, Vukota, McKay, Ray, and Churla.

When comparing the two cards I think Langdon's is superior and a bit more impressive in terms of opponents he defeated. He beat Probert and McCarthy twice and they were two of the top fighters in the league. Odjick drew with McCarthy and never fought Probert which hurts his card.

At the very least I would say Langdon was certainly on par with Odjick and not an inferior opponent. Just look at their 3 fights. In the 3 times they fought, Langdon went 1-0-2 against him. Langdon dropped him once and the other two fights were solid draws. When comparing the two, I think that should factor in the decision of who was better.
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BattleshipRules
Aug 13, 2013 00:12 ET
Langdon was an excellent fighter and very underrated.Reply
BattleshipRules
Aug 13, 2013 00:14 ET
Not to take anything away from Odjick. He was a very good fighter as well. I just think Langdon's ability to box is overlooked at times.Reply
EC
Aug 13, 2013 13:44 ET
Quote from message by BattleshipRules
Not to take anything away from Odjick. He was a very good fighter as well. I just think Langdon's ability to box is overlooked at times.
I agree with you. Langdon wasn't the most powerful puncher (guys like Probert, Kocur, and Twist were obviously the ones known for that), nor was he a real wild fighter like Odjick or Grimson. However Langdon's endurance and stamina was arguably the best in the league among tough guys (Probert and McSorley are the only other two that would be contenders for that title in my opinion).

He could hold his own against the best in the league and he has some impressive wins on his fight card. Langdon wasn't a heavyweight based on size and strength but rather in fighting ability and endurance.
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EC
Aug 13, 2013 13:54 ET
Quote from message by zolika
A prime Odjick (1990-94) was a Top 5 fighter, Langdon never was.


You are certainly right about Odjick being a top fighter during the early years of his career. However I think you are mistaken in saying Langdon was never a top 5 fighter. I believe Langdon was a top 5 fighter in the 1997-1998 season. He had wins over Grimson, McCarthy, Vial, Belanger, Laus, McKay, Baumgartner, as well as dropping Odjick that season. His only losses were against Grimson, Domi, Laus, and Belanger and all of those results aside from the Grimson fight are debatable in my opinion.
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zolika
Aug 13, 2013 14:33 ET
Quote from message by EC

You are certainly right about Odjick being a top fighter during the early years of his career. However I think you are mistaken in saying Langdon was never a top 5 fighter. I believe Langdon was a top 5 fighter in the 1997-1998 season. He had wins over Grimson, McCarthy, Vial, Belanger, Laus, McKay, Baumgartner, as well as dropping Odjick that season. His only losses were against Grimson, Domi, Laus, and Belanger and all of those results aside from the Grimson fight are debatable in my opinion.
I don't know about Top 5, Grimson/McCarthy/Domi/Twist/Brashear were all ahead of him imo. But he was definitely a Top 10 fighter. The problem is Odjick was atleast a Top 5 in two seasons + a couple of Top 10 seasons as well.

Langdon was pretty much a healthy scratch in the next couple of years in New York and he wasn't a Top 10 after that. Maybe he was an underrated fighter, but nobody feared him, which cant be said about Odjick.

Don't get me wrong, Langdon was a terrific fighter for his size, but the early Odjick was just a bit better. Maybe the competition wasn't as good like in the mid 90s, but Odjick was at one point only behind Probert.
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TheDanLine
Aug 13, 2013 18:16 ET
Odjick had more beatdown type wins against top competition compared to Langdon, who was way too much of a pillow puncher. When Langdon won fights he usually won fights on points and not by pummeling the opponent. So to me a lot of his wins are watered-down.Reply
EC
Aug 14, 2013 09:57 ET
Quote from message by zolika
I don't know about Top 5, Grimson/McCarthy/Domi/Twist/Brashear were all ahead of him imo. But he was definitely a Top 10 fighter. The problem is Odjick was atleast a Top 5 in two seasons + a couple of Top 10 seasons as well.

Langdon was pretty much a healthy scratch in the next couple of years in New York and he wasn't a Top 10 after that. Maybe he was an underrated fighter, but nobody feared him, which cant be said about Odjick.

Don't get me wrong, Langdon was a terrific fighter for his size, but the early Odjick was just a bit better. Maybe the competition wasn't as good like in the mid 90s, but Odjick was at one point only behind Probert.
You are right in saying Odjick was a top 5 fighter for several seasons while Langdon was not. The only season where you can make that argument with Langdon is the 97-98 season and that was the best season he had. His fight cards in other seasons was not nearly as good. I agree with you there.

I also see where you are coming from regarding intimidation. Odjick was the more intimidating fighter because he was much wilder and unpredictable. I think we can agree that Odjick was a top fighter early in his career while Langdon only approached those ranks for one season. Langdon was a smart fighter but not a dominant one like Odjick was in his prime.
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EC
Aug 14, 2013 09:59 ET
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Odjick had more beatdown type wins against top competition compared to Langdon, who was way too much of a pillow puncher. When Langdon won fights he usually won fights on points and not by pummeling the opponent. So to me a lot of his wins are watered-down.
That is a good point Storm. Odjick was a wild fighter who would just chuck em so he did have many of those wins (but that style also leaves you vulnerable to some big losses to). I would just say that because of his size Langdon had to fight that way. He wasn't the biggest fighter so he had to fight smart and use his endurance to gain an advantage.
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sickboy
Nov 2, 2016 10:45 ET
Full game, CBC feed. Including Langdon vs Odjick scrap.

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TheDanLine
Feb 3 09:46 ET
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 Darren Langdon 6'1'' 2205lb 32None
 Donald Brashear 6'3'' 2237lb 32
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 SarcasticPillow
21154 fight reviews
162 fight logs

Jan 4, 2014 11:28 ET
Eric Cairns throws a few soft punches at Donald Brashear while the linesmen are between them so Brashear gets his left loose and throws a big left at Cairns though they're broken up by the linesmen. Darren Langdon takes issue with the late punch by Brashear and goes right after him as they do some jawing with each other. Brashear tries to get past the linesman and grab Langdon while Langdon drops his stick and lands a gloved right to the head. The linesman pushes Brashear against the glass and Langdon goes back at Brashear, landing a gloved right and missing a gloved left before being grabbed by a linesman. Fun 
4
Anthony19
2976 fight reviews

Nov 6, 2005 19:36 ET
After the Fight with Cairns, im guessin Brash gave a sign to the Crowd like he's No.1, so Langdon not liking that comes over to Brash a drills him with some gloved punches. Fun 
5
lilburtis9363
1093 fight reviews

Aug 29, 2006 10:26 ET
langdon didn't like brashear hitting cairns after the fight was over so langdon skates over and tries to get at brashear throwing some hard right gloved punches, i really would have loved to see that fight seeing that langdon tko'd odjick right after Fun 
4
michiann
3642 fight reviews

Jun 25, 2012 15:09 ET
I have the whole affair (fights & extra-curricular activities) on tape. After the refs get in between Cairns & Brashear, Brashear throws an over-the-top punch at Cairns as a cheap shot. Langdon sees this and then as Brashear is heading to the penalty-box, Langdon terrorizes Brashear by slamming into him body-wise followed by a punch. Brashear actually looked intimidated by this because he didn't retaliate against Langdon. Fun 
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Fight at 53:11
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 Darren Langdon 6'1'' 2205lb 10871None
 Gino Odjick 6'3'' 2215lb 101290
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 SarcasticPillow
21154 fight reviews
162 fight logs

Jan 4, 2014 11:28 ET
Darren Langdon win by TKO Fun 
8
The game is a rout for the New York Rangers and tempers are high. Darren Langdon tried to get at Donald Brashear following his fight with Eric Cairns so later in the third period, Langdon and Gino Odjick come together and drop the gloves. They get a hold of each others' jerseys and Langdon gets in closer on Odjick. Odjick throws eight rights in the meantime and lands six, mostly to the helmet of Langdon. Langdon then lands a right and Odjick lands a right in return. Langdon then knocks off Odjick's helmet with a landing right and Odjick lands two rights after. Langdon misses a right as Odjick lowers his head briefly. Odjick gets his head up and misses a right, then Langdon lands a good right that buckles Odjick. Odjick turns away and drops the ice and Langdon lands four rights as Odjick bounces up but the linesmen get between them. TKO Langdon in a short but really good heavyweight fight.
 BattleshipRules
13335 fight reviews

Jul 5, 2014 19:13 ET
Darren Langdon win by TKO Fun 
8
This was a good fight. Odjick got off to a strong start. He landed an average blow, a solid shot, and an average connect. He missed a punch, landed a decent blow, and missed a shot. He landed an average punch and missed a shot. Langdon landed an average blow, landed a solid shot, and missed a punch.

Gino missed a punch, landed two average blows, and missed two rights. Darren landed a good shot, missed a punch, and landed a solid connect. He missed a punch and landed a good blow. The refs were there to stop the fight.

Odjick tried to continue fighting after the refs were there. He landed an average right. Ulf Samuelsson mouthed off to him and Gino made a motion to go after him. The refs subdued Odjick and order was restored.

I rate this as a TKO for Langdon. This was one of those fights where the man knocked down could have continued, but was prevented from doing so. I think it should be technically be regarded as a TKO for Langdon in keeping with the established precedents at DYG. Odjick didn't land any punches in the immediate aftermath of the knockdown.
 JButler17
115 fight reviews

Dec 1, 2005 14:10 ET
Darren Langdon win by TKO Fun 
7
These two go at it late in the game with the Rangers well ahead. Pretty even up early on and then Langdon lands a right-handed bomb on Gino's chin that knocks him to the ice. Odjick gets back up pretty quick but the point is made and the damage is done. Impressive fight by Langdon.
 lilburtis9363
1093 fight reviews

Sep 28, 2007 14:45 ET
Darren Langdon win by TKO Fun 
8
These two find eachother and have a go. They drop the gloves and Odjick starts firing rights right away mostly missing or hitting Langdon's helmet. Langdon tries a right that hits the helmet as Odjick fires one back which hits Langdon's helmet. Langdon then lands a good right knocking of Odjick's helmet, Odjick fires one back. Langdon tries another right which Odjick ducks, then Langdon catches him with a big right which makes Odjick go very off balance. Langdon fires a big right to the top of Odjick's head, and a couple more hard ones. The linesman get in there to save Odjick, and Odjick gets back up as Langdon lands another hard one. They have a good long talk, and then Odjick fires a cheap very late punch at Langdon.
mullet
20065 fight reviews

Dec 8, 2004 06:01 ET
Darren Langdon win by TKO Fun 
8
Odjick early got some shots in, Langdon then started throwing rights and he caught Odjick with a good one that put Gino to his knees. He got back up quickly but the refs got in to break it up.
Jocke
1489 fight reviews
12 fight logs

Apr 23, 2005 16:00 ET
Darren Langdon clear win Fun 
7
AGWolverine
143 fight reviews

Jun 10, 2005 17:43 ET
Darren Langdon win by TKO Fun 
8
Lovely right hand by Langdon. Odjick went for the suckerpunch after the refs got in, cheap.
re
9277 fight reviews

Aug 15, 2005 11:22 ET
Darren Langdon win by TKO Fun 
8
Odjick is domanating Langdon.
Intell Langdon lands a big shot that lays out Odjick.
gooftick
663 fight reviews

Mar 13, 2006 15:16 ET
Darren Langdon decisive win Fun 
7
Langdon hits Odjic with a couple. Odjic falls down but gets back up and Langdon lands a few more.
RunninAmok
14 fight reviews

Mar 31, 2006 06:40 ET
Darren Langdon win by TKO Fun 
7
TKO win for Langdon, he put big Gino down at the end of this one.
drwdan19
1256 fight reviews

Apr 4, 2006 21:34 ET
Darren Langdon decisive win Fun 
7
Langdon smacked Odjick with a great right and could have pounded him some more if the refs hadn't jumped in.
FrAn6
3608 fight reviews

May 30, 2009 07:52 ET
Darren Langdon win by TKO Fun 
7
TheDanLine
11356 fight reviews

Jul 25, 2012 15:06 ET
Darren Langdon clear win Fun 
7
Don't think it was a TKO, Odjick looked to be already off-balance when Langdon hit him. Clear win Langdon.
michiann
3642 fight reviews

Jan 7, 2013 21:02 ET
Darren Langdon win by TKO Fun 
N/A
They meet up & drop the gloves quickly near the sideboards. Quick fight that sees a total of 5 facial-punches by Odjick. Langdon then lands the final two unanswered punches which was 1 facial-punch that definitely dropped Odjick and then landed 1 head-punch just before the refs rush in. Tko for Langdon.
TieDomiFan
2392 fight reviews

Dec 19, 2013 08:00 ET
Darren Langdon decisive win Fun 
7
Nuerac8
3235 fight reviews

Jan 30, 2014 14:13 ET
Darren Langdon decisive win Fun 
7
The loser was not "dropped by a punch" but he " ended in a hopeless position". Decisive win.
itsJ.Millertime
12702 fight reviews

Jan 23, 2016 13:33 ET
Darren Langdon win by TKO Fun 
8
Great fight, both guys land some good blows with Odjick getting the better of it then Langdon lands a sweet right and drops him ending the bout.
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pluguglies
Sep 28, 2007 20:11 ET
Another great , smart fight by Langdon . He impresses me more every time I see him fight .Reply
SarcasticPillow
May 18, 2013 01:25 ET
The tilt.

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TheDanLine
Aug 26, 2013 17:45 ET
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 Fight at 57:49
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Duration 0:40ThrownLanded   Big   
 Mike Keane 5'10''  185lb 1150207None
 Scott Walker 5'10''  196lb 1150245
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 BattleshipRules
13335 fight reviews

Nov 21, 2014 22:24 ET
Draw Fun 
10
This was a great action fight. Walker and Keane teed off on each other in blistering toe-to-toe action for a long spell. Mike went with left hands and Scott went with rights. This was a tremendous bout and one of the best of the era. Neither guy gave an inch until they ran out of steam at the end.

Keane landed an average blow, missed a punch, and landed a solid shot. He missed a punch and landed a solid blow. Walker landed a solid shot, missed a punch, and landed a partial connect. He landed an average right. Mike missed a blow, landed an average shot, and missed a punch. He landed two average lefts.

Scott missed a punch and landed two solid rights. He missed a blow and landed an average punch. Keane landed a solid connect and missed a punch. He landed an average blow and a solid shot. He landed an average connect, missed a punch, and landed a solid blow. Walker missed two blows and landed an average punch. He missed two shots and landed four solid rights.

Mike missed a punch and landed a solid blow. He missed a shot and landed a solid connect. He missed a punch and landed a solid shot. He missed a blow and landed a solid left. He missed a punch and landed two solid blows. Scott missed a punch and landed a solid connect. He missed a blow and landed an average punch. He missed two punches and landed two average blows.

Keane missed four straight punches and landed a solid left. Walker missed two blows and landed two partial connects. He missed a punch and landed a solid shot. He missed a blow and landed a decent connect. Mike landed two average connects and missed two punches. He landed two solid shots and a couple of partial connects. He missed two left hands.

Walker landed an average blow and missed a punch. He landed a partial connect and missed two shots. He landed two solid punches. He landed a partial connect and an average blow. Keane landed a couple of average punches. Scott landed a final solid shot. The refs stopped the great fight.

I rate this as a draw. Both men fought with uncommon valor. Both landed close to two dozen effective blows. I thought Keane had the slight edge until the end. Walker was a little fresher at the finish and landed some powerful shots. This earned him the draw in the classic contest.

Keane and Walker were in a lot of exciting fights. Scott thrilled the crowd on a regular basis. He loved to chuck punches in toe-to-toe action. He had a tremendous ability to take a punch and was a surprisingly hard hitter for his size. He didn't have a good defense, but he wore down plenty of fighters with his incredible stamina and good hand speed.

Walker had a long career in the NHL and was a memorable battler. He had terrific action fights and was a real crowd-pleaser. He had good performances against Dody Wood, Mike Eagles, Michel Petit, Jason Smith, Jason Marshall, Bryan Marchment, and Brendan Witt. He lost competitive bouts with Gordie Dwyer and Ray Schultz.

Scott had a never-say-die attitude. He gave all he had against Darren McCarty and landed several power shots until Darren took control at the end. He got off to a fast start and held his own against power punching heavyweight Ken Belanger. He overcame a poor start to come on strong against Scott Daniels. These three fights revealed character as Walker competed with all his might against big heavyweight fighters. Scott was a warrior who deserves the utmost of respect.
 SlapShot
207 fight reviews

Jul 17, 2006 18:08 ET
Draw Fun 
10
Keane and Walker get their fight going once the linesman gets out of the way, and they treat the crowd to a great scrap. Keane with the left and Walker the right. For as even as the first part of the fight looked (both were throwing continuously) I think Keane got the better of it because it looked like his lefts were consistently landing whereas I could see some of Walker's rights coming up short. But, Walker then quits throwing just straight rights and switches to a combination of right uppercuts mixed in with the straight rights and now he appears to be landing his shots with better frequency than Keane does. For some reason Mark Messier feels compelled to encourage the linesmen to end it (not sure if Walker was showing some damage or not, his back was to the camera for the majority of the fight), and shortly after the zebras step in and the fight is over. Unlike the Chase-Stojanov fight I cannot detect even a narrow victory here, only a slight early advantage to Keane and a slight late advantage to Walker (and when I say slight I mean by the absolute narrowest of margins). John Davidson said it best after it was over, "If you like a good fight that was a good fight." The only thing I would add to that is that it was pretty entertaining for those of us who enjoy a great fight as well.
 SarcasticPillow
21154 fight reviews
162 fight logs

Aug 31, 2013 11:52 ET
Draw Fun 
10
The third period of this game has been a little bit heated after heavyweight tilts between Donald Brashear and Eric Cairns as well as Gino Odjick and Darren Langdon. With only a few minutes left to go in the game, a middleweight bout breaks out between two pesky wingers, Mike Keane and Scott Walker. A linesman tries to get between them but Walker gets around him and grabs on with Keane. From start to finish, the two just unleash punches on each other, Keane exclusively with the left hand, Walker with the right. They each take momentary pauses but every time, they continue to unload, the pace slowing as they get tired, and eventually the linesmen step in. Keane throws fifty lefts and lands twenty, seven of them connecting nicely to the face. Walker throws fifty rights and lands twenty-four, six of them connecting nicely in the face. They end up getting in tight as they cease throwing and the two go off to the loud applause of the fans at General Motors Place. An extremely entertaining fight. They were just chucking and tossing them the entire time and each was landing and connecting well at times. They were more accurate early than late but as the fight wore on, they got a little bit more distance between them and swung wilder. I call it a draw. While the fight was going on, Vancouver Canucks' captain, Mark Messier was skating nearby the fight calling and gesturing for the linesmen to break it up. The linesmen ignored Messier for the most part, stepping in once Walker and Keane were done throwing and had gotten in tight.
mullet
20065 fight reviews

Dec 8, 2004 06:03 ET
Draw Fun 
10
Fists were flying here. They were just throwing them, Walker rights and Keane lefts until they finally got tired and refs got in. They threw almost hundred punches in this bout!
Jocke
1489 fight reviews
12 fight logs

Apr 23, 2005 16:05 ET
Draw Fun 
10
Perfect cure for when in a bad mood. This fight is awesome, spectacular. They go all out. Keane kept his head up all through the fight while Walker kept his bent down during the first half. Gretzky seemed concerned when looking on from the bench..
drwdan19
1256 fight reviews

Jul 10, 2005 10:08 ET
Draw Fun 
10
Whoa. Those guys were throwin. Great fight.
re
9277 fight reviews

Aug 15, 2005 11:17 ET
Draw Fun 
10
A grate fight between to none fighters.
Joonibal
142 fight reviews

Nov 18, 2005 18:56 ET
Mike Keane narrow win Fun 
10
One of the great middleweight bouts with two guys throwing and landing non-stop punches. I felt Keane landed a bit more often, though he did have the benefit of having a visor on--which obviously constrained Walker.
moisty69
584 fight reviews

Dec 23, 2005 13:43 ET
Scott Walker narrow win Fun 
10
hb11
4863 fight reviews

Feb 15, 2006 10:24 ET
Draw Fun 
10
One of the top ten fights ever. Both guys were punching at a furious pace. Just too hard to pick a winner. Outstanding fight. Even Gretzky was smiling after this one.
EddieShore
911 fight reviews

Feb 15, 2006 19:44 ET
Draw Fun 
10
Toe-to-toe battle. All offense and no defense as both got nailed with tons of punches. A superb fight.
14shanahan14
440 fight reviews

Mar 4, 2006 21:06 ET
Scott Walker narrow win Fun 
10
At first it looks like keane is landing just a bit more but towards the end, jesus, walker starts to hammer keane with uppercuts and hooks. Great fight.
gooftick
663 fight reviews

Mar 18, 2006 10:16 ET
Draw Fun 
10
CrazyPsycho
1121 fight reviews

May 29, 2006 10:02 ET
Draw Fun 
10
I can't believe some of you can pick a winner in this one. What a fight!
Hogie2
908 fight reviews

Jul 30, 2006 17:17 ET
Draw Fun 
10
They throw the whole time, taking bombs and giving bombs
lilburtis9363
1093 fight reviews

Aug 11, 2006 15:32 ET
Draw Fun 
10
major slugfest walker with rights keane with lefts
NP19133
267 fight reviews

Jan 17, 2007 21:46 ET
Draw Fun 
10
Great fight Keane had the edge early landing a good amount of his punches as Walker's weren't really landing but then Walker went on for a while with big uppercuts. Why was Messier always trying to break up fights, that always kind of annoyed me.
Owned33
434 fight reviews
1 fight log

Mar 31, 2007 21:58 ET
Draw Fun 
10
dropin-gloves814
4 fight reviews

Oct 21, 2007 20:09 ET
Draw Fun 
10
this fight is a draw no doubt about it, it is a complete slugfest also. i definetly enjoyed watching this fight
nyrangers28
135 fight reviews

Sep 30, 2008 00:12 ET
Draw Fun 
10
WOW what a spectacular fight one of the best i have ever seen
TowerOfRome
168 fight reviews

Mar 9, 2009 09:36 ET
Draw Fun 
10
The punch count is way off on this fight with the "big" punches landed way off. I see 4 to 6 for Keane and maybe 3 for Walker. This fight is still a 10 no doubt. Keane landed flush with everything early on and Walker came back late. Keane got a few in towards the end, so if anyone should get a deciosion it's Mike Keane.

The queerest part of this fight is Mark Messier telling the refs to get in there and brake it up. He probably sounded like whats his name in Slapshot, Dr. Hook McCracken, saying he that this is a freak show. Well Mark, just because your fight card looks like a school kids fight card, doesn't maen you have to hate fighting. Die already fag.
GarrettTV
33 fight reviews

Feb 14, 2010 00:13 ET
Scott Walker narrow win Fun 
10
this is one of those fights i just watch this fight from time to time because it never gets old. others reviews say it well, but obviously these guys are just laying into each other the whole time. I think i've finally decided to give the edge to walker on account of landing more solid shots. keane gets in many of his own, perhaps even the best 2 or 3 of the match. however, the sheer number of bombs that walker is able to get in over the length of the fight give him the edge. he fought with a little more awareness and was able to get better shots in on a more consistent basis. what a flat-out battle.
michiann
3642 fight reviews

Sep 20, 2011 08:12 ET
Draw Fun 
N/A
Its a great toe-to-toe battle as 2 mighty-mites get it on. Countless number of facial punches by both should only make reviewers call this a draw.
weylax09
329 fight reviews

Nov 6, 2011 18:13 ET
Draw Fun 
10
amazing toe to toe fight another classic nhl fight
FrAn6
3608 fight reviews

Jun 25, 2012 16:18 ET
Draw Fun 
10
uppercut24
638 fight reviews

Feb 26, 2013 00:21 ET
Mike Keane narrow win Fun 
10
Toe-to-Toe fight, close fight. Keane won the beginning, Walker came back a bit and Keane narrowly won the end. Narrow win Keane. 10/10
Killahpunk
2389 fight reviews

May 4, 2013 11:23 ET
Draw Fun 
10
Fight of the year! Both guys have the pistons firing in full gear!
TieDomiFan
2392 fight reviews

Dec 19, 2013 08:00 ET
Draw Fun 
10
LoKoL
1773 fight reviews

Apr 20, 2015 22:13 ET
Draw Fun 
10
Wow, amazing fight. Both guys landing massive blows, it was Keane early, then Walker came back with some upper cuts that looked nasty!

Great draw!
itsJ.Millertime
12702 fight reviews

Jan 23, 2016 13:30 ET
Draw Fun 
10
What a war, both guys just stand back and trade blows for the entire fight.
JimMcKenzie
3960 fight reviews

Jul 24, 2016 16:24 ET
Draw Fun 
10
6025
207 fight reviews

May 15, 2017 16:51 ET
Draw Fun 
10
Crazy t2t slugfest with 2 real tough middleweights. It's too tough to split them as both men got some decent shots in. Classic and a solid draw.
supersonic
7732 fight reviews

Sep 19, 2017 05:13 ET
Draw Fun 
10
This was a battle of epic proportions, Keane and Walker just trading punch after punch, seemed like it would never end. Messier even looked to motion to the officials to get in there, a well earned draw in one of the better fights you will see.
TheDanLine
11356 fight reviews

Mar 14, 2018 10:27 ET
Draw Fun 
10
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Feb 9, 2008 19:25 ET
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SarcasticPillow
Jul 17, 2011 12:35 ET
The fight.

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Mar 14, 2018 10:30 ET
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