Oct 31, 1989
Toronto - Minnesota6-4

Summary Of Events
1  31:19  Fight  Curran-Churla
2  31:38  Fight  Kordic-Tinordi

Fight at 31:19
HeightWeightPunchesBlood
Duration 0:10ThrownLanded   Big   
 Brian Curran 6'5'' 4215lb 15931None
 Shane Churla 6'1'' 4200lb 15741
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 BattleshipRules
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Nov 29, 2017 17:50 ET
Shane Churla narrow win Fun 
6
The Colonel and the Chainsaw decided to throw down. Curran got the jump on Churla. Brian landed an average blow and a pretty good right hand. Shane missed a blow. Curran missed two punches, landed an average blow, and landed a partial connect. The Colonel was back on his heels as Churla mounted a rally. Shane missed a punch, landed a solid blow, and landed a good right. He landed a solid punch and Curran slumped to the ice.

I rate this as a narrow win for Chainsaw. Curran landed with some pop, but Churla landed three powerful right hands to earn the decision.
 SarcasticPillow
20582 fight reviews
146 fight logs

Jan 15, 2018 16:55 ET
Shane Churla narrow win Fun 
6
Brian Curran and Shane Churla drop the gloves after jostling for position at a faceoff. Curran gets the jump on Churla as they're fighting before the puck is even dropped. Curran throws five straight rights and lands two, one catching Churla decently in the face before Churla gets set and throws back. Curran continues, throwing four rights and landing one while Churla throws six rights and lands thee, one landing well and knocking Curran backward. Curran falls and Churla's helmet falls off as he falls on top of Curran, landing one right as the linemen come in to break them apart. Short but really spirited scrap. Curran got the jump on Churla but Churla fought back well. Giving the nod to Churla here.
SChurla
34 fight reviews

Sep 19, 2004 15:05 ET
Shane Churla clear win Fun 
7
Hurls34
426 fight reviews

Sep 2, 2011 22:38 ET
Shane Churla narrow win Fun 
6
Curran leans into Churla from the faceoff circle and Churla shoves back, with Curran getting the quick jump in terms of punches with a few nice shots to the face. Churla keeps on swinging getting the momentum as Curran goes down to the ice. Nice short flurry by both heavyweights with Churla getting the slight edge for staying on his feet longer.
NameyMD
422 fight reviews

Apr 29, 2012 19:16 ET
Shane Churla narrow win Fun 
7
At the faceoff they're itching to go and before the puck's even dropped they do and trade some furious rights for a moment with Churla seeming to get the upper hand as Curran goes down first though I don't think from being KO'd but more from losing balance. Pretty righteous scrap here.
mullet
19793 fight reviews

Aug 22, 2013 04:10 ET
Shane Churla narrow win Fun 
6
They start going at it before the puck is dropped. Very quick fight, they trade right hands and both land some nice ones but the fight only lasts about five seconds before Curran falls down backwards with Churla on top.
brawler29
1588 fight reviews

Feb 12, 2016 11:00 ET
Shane Churla narrow win Fun 
6
A quick fight with both getting some shots in before Curran fell down with Churla on top. Feel Churla had the edge in this one.
itsJ.Millertime
11962 fight reviews

Nov 21, 2017 12:56 ET
Shane Churla narrow win Fun 
6
Curran gets the jump on Churla landing a nice uppercut at the start, Churla comes on from there as the two go toe to toe exchanging rights, Churla lands 3 straight blows to close the fight earning himself the narrow win.
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fightguy42
Nov 18, 2017 11:38 ET
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 Fight at 31:38
HeightWeightPunchesBlood
Duration 0:25ThrownLanded   Big   
 John Kordic 6'1'' 3220lb 725124None
 Mark Tinordi 6'4'' 3213lb 721103
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 BattleshipRules
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Jul 3, 2013 16:40 ET
John Kordic narrow win Fun 
10
This was a tremendous fight and for twenty seconds of action, it doesn't get much better than this. Kordic and Tinordi had a great opening exchange. Mark landed a solid connect, missed a couple of punches, landed an average blow, and landed a solid punch. John landed a couple of solid blows, missed a punch, landed a couple of average blows.

Kordic was circling to the left, but the move did not affect Tinordi's accuracy. Mark landed a couple of average shots. Rambo missed a punch and landed a couple of average blows. Tinordi landed two solid blows and a pretty good shot that got John's attention. Kordic stopped circling and worked on getting a better grip.

John had a clever and effective move. He switched up on the grip buy reaching across his body and grabbing a grip on Tinordi's right shoulder. The circling alone was not going to work against a guy who was not trying to go with left hands and knew how to adjust the trajectory of his rights to hit a moving target. Kordic got a strong grip established and he landed four consecutive average lefts.

Tinordi landed a solid blow and an average blow. Kordic decided to start circling again. This time, Mark had enough resistance on his arm to disrupt his timing a bit. He missed a few punches. John landed four solid blows and missed a punch. Tinordi clinched and the refs stopped the contest after this became a wrestling match.

I rate this as a narrow win for Kordic. Tinordi was very competitive and landed a number of effective blows. John's in-fight adjustments proved to be the deciding factor in the contest. Kordic wanted to minimize the incoming fire because he got tagged with some powerful blows. Once John adjusted his grip and began circling again, he gained the mastery.

Tinordi was a tough heavyweight. He had good physical tools. He could punch and he could surprise top heavyweights with his hand speed, accuracy, strength, and power. Mark not only gave Kordic all he could handle, he also fought to a standstill with a prime Joey Kocur.

Tinordi was one of the most unheralded fighters of his era. His name is seldom mentioned when discussing the better heavyweights of his era. He performed well in bouts with Rudy Poeschek, Ken Baumgartner, Kris King, David Maley, Rob Ray, Brendan Shanahan, Wendel Clark, Rick Tocchet, Robert Dirk, and Randy McKay. He was a real tough customer and was a handful for top guys to deal with. His fights are great to watch because most often they were action-packed affairs.
 mullet
19793 fight reviews

Jul 30, 2013 12:35 ET
John Kordic narrow win Fun 
9
Finally saw the entire fight and it was a great one. They went toe to toe, Kordic with lefts Tinordi with rights and Kordic was landing better. Tinordi then stopped throwing and Kordic landed some more lefts. Tinordi started throwing again and they traded some more before they stopped and linesmen got in. Kordic gets the win, he landed more and better and apparently Tinordi had to leave the game because of a badly swollen eye. Edit: I'll change this from clear win to a narrow win for Kordic. This was easily one of the fights of the year.
 SarcasticPillow
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Jun 13 16:36 ET
John Kordic narrow win Fun 
9
John Kordic and Mark Tinordi drop their gloves right by the benches and as soon as both guys grab on, they begin unloading punches toe-to-toe. Tinordi throws fourteen rights and lands seven, two connecting well to the shin while another two connect nicely to the cheek and to the jaw and Kordic throws thirteen lefts and lands six, connecting with two well to the jaw and side of the forehead while two more connect cleanly to Tinordi's eye. They lock up in tight after the trading but Kordic keeps his hand free and throws six more lefts, landing three. They open back up again and resume rifling off punches toe-to-toe though it doesn't last as long or is as intense as the previous exchange. Kordic throws seven lefts and lands three, connecting flush to Tinordi's jaw with two and Tinordi throws eight rights and lands two, connecting with one squarely to the side of the head. They again lock up in tight and wrestle over to the boards where the linesmen split them up. Great toe-to-toe bout between Tinordi and Kordic. Edge to Kordic for landing slightly more and better but credit to both guys for a great fight. Tinordi wound up having to leave the game with a swollen eye as a result of this battle.
GohabsGo1982
11 fight reviews

May 4, 2007 17:02 ET
John Kordic clear win Fun 
8
Awesome fight, they both went t2t but Kordic nailed him a few times and threw a few more then tinordi! GREAT SCRAP!
michiann
3646 fight reviews

Jun 11, 2013 09:09 ET
John Kordic narrow win Fun 
N/A
Video starts as a toe-to-toe between two heaveyweights who know how to pump away with the fists. I counted 8 facial-punches by Kordic and 7 facial-punches by Tinordi. Each guy had their share of missed swings also. No blood was shed here but one person said that Tinordi went off for a swollen eye and another person said he had an eye examination. Speculation isnt good enough here, so, i can't call this a clear won for Kordic because each guy had virtually the same amount of facialpunches making it obviously a very competitve, entertaining fight. Narrow win for Kordic would be a justified label here.
FrAn6
3587 fight reviews

Jul 8, 2014 22:40 ET
Draw Fun 
9
I am watching this bout a couple of times. To have the better perception as possible I watched the head of Tinordi in a effort to watching closely how many punches John Kordic may have land and did the same method in regards of John Kordic. It appears that Kordic won the aspect of quantity of punches because he was throwing more punches than Tinordi but this one won the quality of punches. I would say without a doubt that Tinordi landed the hardest punch of the fight near the middle when Kordic stumbled immediately after receiving the blow. Very intense fight with some toe-to-toe moment but I am going to call this fight a draw.
supersonic
6233 fight reviews

Apr 27, 2017 09:44 ET
John Kordic narrow win Fun 
9
TheDanLine
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Jul 11, 2017 21:58 ET
John Kordic narrow win Fun 
9
itsJ.Millertime
11962 fight reviews

Jul 27, 2017 14:01 ET
John Kordic narrow win Fun 
9
Excellent fight with lots of toe to toe action, great opening exchange with both landing some hard blows, they pause for a second then Kordic lands a series of lefts before Tinoridi can return fire and from there they again trade blows landing several each, very close fight but Kordic landed just a bit more to earn a very hard fought win.
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zolika
May 17, 2011 22:15 ET
michiann

Kordic really hurt Tinordi in this scrap and if i am not mistaken Tinordi had double vision for several days after the fight. Maybe thats the reason people give it to Kordic as a clear win.
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michiann
May 18, 2011 20:09 ET
Quote from message by zolika
michiann

Kordic really hurt Tinordi in this scrap and if i am not mistaken Tinordi had double vision for several days after the fight. Maybe thats the reason people give it to Kordic as a clear win.
zolika, thankyou for your supplemental information on this fight. However, what you are referring to, is called "after the fact" .... and "after the fact" buisness is not counted. All fights should be reviewed based on the actions within the fight on the ice. An analogy to what you are talking about would be a hypothetical situation of : if player-A wins in a fight against player-B but then, player-A is hospitalized much later because he was unknowingly hemorrhaging (bleeding internally), would you say then, "player-B should now be deemed as the winner of that fight because of the injury that he inflicted? of course not. ///////////// However, in the same situation, if player-A happens to faint on the ice just after winning the fight against player-B, only then player-A should not be chosen as the winner. Again, we all have to review fights based on what happens on the ice .... and not for what happens much later on, off the ice. /////////////// Anyway, to apply what i just said to the tinordi-kordic fight > the fight was a draw up until the time when kordic delivered 2 more punches versus the amount of tiniordi's punches > thus, narrow win for kordic, and it doesn't matter if tinordi had double vision.
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zolika
May 18, 2011 22:47 ET
I see your point, but based on action just look at the Cairns-Fedoruk fight from the 2003-2004 season. How do you score that fight? The action looks equal, Fedoruk even drops Cairns at the beginning. If you watch the fight, you have a feeling Fedoruk earns atleast the draw. The reality is, that Cairns broke Fedoruk's face with one of his punches!

IMO its not a huge deal with narrow/clear win calls. Kordic landed better/harder/more + inflicted some damage. For me its enough to call it as a clear win. But i can see your point of argument as well.
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michiann
May 19, 2011 15:47 ET
Quote from message by zolika
I see your point, but based on action just look at the Cairns-Fedoruk fight from the 2003-2004 season. How do you score that fight? The action looks equal, Fedoruk even drops Cairns at the beginning. If you watch the fight, you have a feeling Fedoruk earns atleast the draw. The reality is, that Cairns broke Fedoruk's face with one of his punches!

IMO its not a huge deal with narrow/clear win calls. Kordic landed better/harder/more + inflicted some damage. For me its enough to call it as a clear win. But i can see your point of argument as well.
That's an old fight and those reviewers had old values back then when they reviewed it and i don't know what their rules were back then because even the website moderator named No. 7 wrongly rated the fight as a decisive win because according to the present definition of "decisive win", that's when: the loser turtled; or the loser had to be protected by the refs; or the loser asked the refs to stop the fight > none of these situations occurred during this cairns - fedoruk fight because fedoruk fell on top of cairns which immobilized cairns, thus fedoruk didn't need to be rescued ... fedoruk may have been facially-hurt, but again, he didn't need to be rescued because he winded up in a advantageous position which didn't necessitate a rescue. I think if you asked those reviewers who gave a decisive win, that they would change their minds. As a matter of fact, i will now post my own review for this fight. ///////////////// Back to the kordic-tinordi fight: i forgot to include the possible fact that tinordi may have been accidently poked in the eye during the fight to cause the double vision > it would be ridiculous to give a person a clear win just because of double vision afterwards.
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zolika
May 19, 2011 15:59 ET
Actually the other reason should be that Fedoruk quit in that fight and went for the takedown after the fatal blow. You CAN make a point about Fedoruk not wanting to continue the fight.

About the Kordic-Tinordi fight: if i remember correctly, Tinordis head was snapped back violently a couple of times. Kordic might landed more and better. It is enough to me for a clear win. Although the fight looks close, in reality Kordic did the damage and Tinordis punches had no effect on Kordic. Kordic had a helluva chin though.
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michiann
May 19, 2011 17:00 ET
Quote from message by zolika
Actually the other reason should be that Fedoruk quit in that fight and went for the takedown after the fatal blow. You CAN make a point about Fedoruk not wanting to continue the fight.

About the Kordic-Tinordi fight: if i remember correctly, Tinordis head was snapped back violently a couple of times. Kordic might landed more and better. It is enough to me for a clear win. Although the fight looks close, in reality Kordic did the damage and Tinordis punches had no effect on Kordic. Kordic had a helluva chin though.
Well, cairns then should have made it his buisness not to be put down with fedoruk on top of him ... so you could say that fedoruk quit because of his cheekbone injury but at the same time, cairns finds himself pinned to the ice with fedoruk on top which didn't make cairns look too good. /////////////// I saw kordic's head snap backwards also after tinordi struck him, so they're both even in that department. It was already established that kordic landed 2 more punches than tinordi ... but you also say, kordic landed better > i don't agree with this because they both seemed to land intense punches. Also, you're still speculating that kordic's punches did damage because you keep overlooking the fact that tinordi could have been inadverdantly poked in the eye> which doesn't count as "damage". And don't say that tinordi's punches had no effect because you weren't the recepient of those punches, so you dont know if kordic was in pain .... most hockey fighters simply mask their pain so that the crowd doesn't perceive them as a crybabys. Many fighters just know "how to take a punch" including both kordic & tinordi.
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zolika
May 19, 2011 23:32 ET
Quote from message by michiann
Also, you're still speculating that kordic's punches did damage because you keep overlooking the fact that tinordi could have been inadverdantly poked in the eye> which doesn't count as "damage". And don't say that tinordi's punches had no effect because you weren't the recepient of those punches, so you dont know if kordic was in pain ....
You are right, i speculate about the effect of the punches, but you also speculate about the eye poke. If you read mullet's review, he mentions that Tinordi had a swollen eye and had to leave the game. Kordic threw punches in this scrap so the thing that damaged Tinordi's eye was a punch and not an accidental eye poke. Peters and Fedoruk had one fight where Todd threw a jab and it hit Peters in the eye. Now thats an eye poke. Or the Kimble-Roberge fight.

Also, i dont see Kordic's head snapped back the way Tinordi's was. No doubt Tinordi landed some bombs, but if you watch the fight carefully, Kordic outlanded him in the 2nd part of the fight. Tinordi's punches either hit the helmet or came up short, while Kordic landed one on the jaw/one on the side of the head. I would say the 1st part is still a slight win for Kordic but as soon as they tie up, Kordic lands two on the face + the previously mentioned punches. I would say the quality of punches are in favour for Kordic.

You keep bringing up the eye poke thing, but there is no evidence. There were several eye pokes over the years in the history of hockey fighting and when it happened, usually they were discovered. Although the clip doesn't show the two of them skating to the box, there were no jabs in this fight and if somebody hit Tinordi's eye directly, it was a punch.

I dont know that you follow UFC or not, but you can say the same thing on the Sakara-Irvin fight. Sakara lands a PUNCH on the eye area, Irvin holds his eye and is unable to continue. Sakara pounds him out, but in case of the eye poke the fight would be immediately stopped and Irvin would have a chance to regroup. But the punch was legal, so Sakara wins by TKO.

Also, if Tinordi was eye-poked, why he continue to keep throwing and shows no effects of the eye poke?
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zolika
May 19, 2011 23:36 ET
Wow, i was wrong. In fact they showed them to skate to their respective benches. For further proof, Tinordi shows no effects on being eye-poked. If you were eye-poked, i dont think you can hide it imo, even more that Tinordi had a double vision. You can try to pretend you are not hurt or dazed (case in point Vandenbussche admitted he often didnt know where he was after the fight), but you cant hide the fact you were eye-poked, as normally people grab their eyes etc.Reply
michiann
May 20, 2011 02:30 ET
Quote from message by zolika
Wow, i was wrong. In fact they showed them to skate to their respective benches. For further proof, Tinordi shows no effects on being eye-poked. If you were eye-poked, i dont think you can hide it imo, even more that Tinordi had a double vision. You can try to pretend you are not hurt or dazed (case in point Vandenbussche admitted he often didnt know where he was after the fight), but you cant hide the fact you were eye-poked, as normally people grab their eyes etc.
Listen zolika, then this only boils down to that cheekbone-damaging punch being labeled as "landed big" as the top of every fight chart shows this to viewers. But 1 "landed-big" punch doesn't make this fight a clear win for kordic. A clear win in any fight is when the other guy is clearly beaten up in a fight. That did not occur here because both guys were almost even in the amount of facially-connected punches, so thats why it should be classified as only a narrow win ... it cannot be any other way.
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zolika
May 20, 2011 02:45 ET
Quote from message by michiann
Listen zolika, then this only boils down to that cheekbone-damaging punch being labeled as "landed big" as the top of every fight chart shows this to viewers. But 1 "landed-big" punch doesn't make this fight a clear win for kordic. A clear win in any fight is when the other guy is clearly beaten up in a fight. That did not occur here because both guys were almost even in the amount of facially-connected punches, so thats why it should be classified as only a narrow win ... it cannot be any other way.
Kordic landed more than one big shot.

Anyways, i think both the narrow/clear wins could be called in this fight. I can see your point as Tinordi responded through the whole fight and never looked outmatched. Although Kordic landed more (and for me its not even close, if Tinordi landed 4 than Kordic almost twice as many) and did damage.

I think your statement as it cannot be any other way is completely false. I wrote valid points here for why should be called as a clear win.
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zolika
May 20, 2011 02:49 ET
Btw, i am not positive about the final verdict. I just stated that the clear win could be debatable, so as the narrow win.

The completely false verdict could be a win for Tinordi. But to say the clear win is clearly wrong is a stretch though.
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SarcasticPillow
Jun 10, 2013 21:58 ET
The fight.

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