Nov 16, 1989
St. Louis - Detroit7-2

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1  10:04  Rough  Chase-Mokosak
2  58:13  Fight  Twist-Kocur
3  60:00  Fight  Chase-Barr

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 Kelly Chase 5'11''  201lb 1N/A
 John Mokosak 5'11''  200lb 1
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mullet
Aug 3, 2013 16:17 ET
Chase 2
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Fight at 58:13
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Duration 0:19ThrownLanded   Big   
 Tony Twist 6'1'' 1230lb 10100None
 Joey Kocur 6'0'' 1220lb 1016151
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 chrisY2J
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Aug 11, 2015 13:10 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
7
Tony Twist, then a rookie for the Blues who brought a hard-hitting reputation with him from the minors, and Joey Kocur, then in his prime as the feared enforcer for the Red Wings, meet up and do battle. Kocur and Twist are very arguably the two hardest punchers in NHL history.

Twist and Kocur meet up behind the play. They lose their gloves and helmets, grab on with the left hands, and load up the big rights. Kocur and Twist throw huge right hands simultaneously. Twist misses entirely with his first (and as it turns out, ONLY) punch. Kocur lands a glancing shot to Twist's head, then immediately goes underneath and delivers a hammering blow to the midsection.

It looked like Kocur knocked the wind out of Twist with this first body blow. Twist just held on and didn't even attempt to throw a second punch, which is VERY unlike the Twister; he was usually extremely aggressive in all of his battles. Not so in this one.

On top of having the wind knocked out of him, Twist is locked out well by Kocur and cannot even get his right arm free, even though I don't think Twist was planning on tossing another punch. Kocur starts swinging away fiercely with rapid right hands. Joey hammered on Twist's ribcage and kidneys with about a dozen hard punches. Kocur tossed one more shot in on Twist's head, then the linesmen separated them.

Twist had to be hurting (and possibly pissing blood) after absorbing all of that punishment. Kocur definitely won that fight clearcut, putting a beating on the rookie Twist.
 EC
4621 fight reviews
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Dec 16, 2015 10:50 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
6
This was the first and only fight that took place between two of the hardest punchers to ever play in the NHL in Joey Kocur and Tony Twist. At this point, Kocur was one of the top fighters in the league and the only fighter who was probably better than him this season was the menacing Dave Brown (Kocur's teammate Bob Probert did not play most of the 1989-1990 season after being arrested for possession of cocaine). Kocur and Dave Brown were also the two most intimidating fighters in the league.

Kocur has already demonstrated that he has a lethal right hand and murderous punching power. In the previous season, he scored a famous KO win over Jim Kyte, and he also scored 3 TKO wins as well. The Detroit tough guy also did some serious damage to Brad Dalgarno, basically breaking one side of Dalgarno's face. Kocur's right hand was understandably feared by other tough guys. Kocur would put on another display of his punching power in this fight.

Tony Twist is playing in his first NHL season. The rookie has already gotten into 3 fights, beating Jay Caufield and Wayne Van Dorp. He also earned a draw against Craig Berube who is no slouch and was one of the top heavyweights in the league in the previous season. Twist was a dominant fighter in the WHL who had a reputation of having a hard punch himself. He is looking to prove himself against one of the premier fighters in the NHL. Unfortunately the fight would go very badly for the St. Louis forward.

When the clip picks up, both men are helmet less. Kocur connects with a hard shot to the body of Twist. Twist misses with a right and appears to be stung by the body blow. Kocur connects with a right to the side of Twist's head. He then proceeds to punch away at Twist's ribs. Kocur works away at Twist's body, hitting him with nine consecutive right hands. Twist is reeling from the blows, and is clearly hurting from them.

Kocur then manages to land two rights to Twist's head. Kocur goes back to the body, hitting Twist with two more shots in the side. Twist is just hanging on and he is clearly in some difficulty. The linesmen recognize that he is in no shape to continue, and they step in to stop the fight.

Excellent job by Kocur as he put on a clinic of how to use body shots in a fight. You don't see them too often but Kocur worked away at Twist's body and really hammered him with those shots to his ribs. Kocur was able to knock the wind out of Twist, and therefore neutralize him. Twist was unable to respond as he was in great discomfort from all of the punches he absorbed. Since Twist was in trouble and was taking a beating, this is a decisive win for Kocur as Twist had to be rescued by the officials.

Joey Kocur would remain a top fighter for years to come and would add to his resume as the hardest puncher in hockey. The young Tony Twist would improve his skills as well as hone his punching power. He would go on to become a top fighter in the NHL himself, and from 1995 to 1999 he was the # 1 fighter in the league. Twist would score some destructive wins of his own, the most notable being in the 1995-1996 season where he broke Rob Ray and Mark Janssens' orbital bones.

What is interesting is Kocur and Twist only fought one time in their careers. Twist and Kocur were both traded to different teams, with Twist ending up in Quebec and Kocur going to the New York Rangers. They played in the same conference from 1991-1992 to 1993-1994. Twist would then go back to St. Louis while Kocur would return to his old team Detroit where he helped them win back to back Stanley Cups. However even though they played for two teams that were division rivals, Kocur and Twist never dropped the gloves between the 1996-1997 season and the 1998-1999 season.

It is entirely possible that there was never a rematch between the two because Twist did not want to take on someone as dangerous as Joey Kocur again. Perhaps Twist remembered the pain he suffered at the hands of Kocur and was not interested in taking that risk one more time. Twist's main weapon in fights was his powerful punch but Kocur had one that was arguably even more powerful so Twist's advantage would be negated. Additionally Kocur was very skilled at tying up his opponents and neutralizing them. This is just pure speculation on my part, I have no idea if the reason why they never fought again was because Twist was intimidated by Kocur. It is also possible they just both respected the power that each man possessed and never got around to going at it again.

It would have been interesting to see how Joey would have fared in taking on a prime Twist who was very, very strong and powerful. Twist managed to manhandle many strong fighters in his day, including Kocur's former teammate Bob Probert 3 times in the mid 90s. If Twist utilized his strength against Kocur, and managed to keep Kocur's right in check while getting his right free, it is safe to say Twist would give Kocur a real problem. However if Kocur was able to connect with his right first, Twist would definitely struggle to put Joey away as Kocur could put some hurt on him. Obviously the key for both men would be to tie up the right hand of their opponent, since both of them were such hard punchers. It is a shame there was never a Round 2, it would have been quite the interesting match up.
 BattleshipRules
13000 fight reviews

Jan 12 19:07 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
6
Tony Twist was a young enforcer who had a world of potential, but he did not yet have the experience to master all the subtleties of his craft. Joe Kocur was still in his prime and was one of the most feared fighters in the league. This had the potential to have great two-way action.

Kocur got the edge right away by getting a vise-grip lock on Tony's right shirt sleeve. Tony threw one weak right. The punch's effect was clearly mitigated by Joey's grip. Kocur started to pound away with body shots as Twist was unable to get any more punches off.

Kocur threw about ten consecutive body punches. Most of these punches landed with terrific force. Twist seemed unconcerned at first about the body blows, but the aggregate effect of these blows began to slow him to a crawl.

Joey threw a decent right to Tony's head to interrupt the sequence. Then, he appeared to land five more body blows. At this point the refs stepped in and Twist had a discernable grimace on his face. The body blows did some damage and I'm certain he was feeling the effects of these blows for days afterwards.

This was a clear victory for Kocur. He landed with numerous body blows. It was amazing to see Twist not even being competitive in the fight. Joey was in the prime of his great fighting career. Tony would go on to be an all time great battler.

Kocur demonstrated to Twist that it would take more than brute strength to be a great NHL fighter. Joey was able to secure good grips on the dominant arm of an opponent. Kocur's bone rattling power was enhanced by his technical skill. He could neutralize the offense of the murderous hitters in the NHL.

Twist was an incredible power puncher, but he was a cerebral fighter as well. He struggled with Jim McKenzie early in his career. He lost a flukey upset to Paul Cyr. Even as a young NHL fighter, Twist was a very good NHL super heavyweight. He became great because he limited incoming fire and displayed a high fighting IQ.

This was a fascinating contest with historical significance between two of the all time greats. These were two of the hardest punchers to ever play professional hockey. Kocur was the more seasoned veteran and he schooled Twist. Tony went on to great exploits, but he never got a measure of revenge for the drubbing he took on this occasion. Joey always left an impression of people's faces. On this occasion, he left an impression on Twist's torso.
 SarcasticPillow
20454 fight reviews
146 fight logs

Feb 21, 2017 17:32 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
5
Rookie enforcer, Tony Twist and veteran heavyweight, Joey Kocur meet up with only a couple minutes left to go and drop the gloves. Both men grab on with the left hand and as they jostle for position, both helmets fall off. Kocur misses a right before Twist misses a right and then tries to get in close. Kocur lands ten of eleven consecutive rights to the body as Twist keeps his head turned around and just holds on. Kocur then connects with a right to the head before finishing the fight with six more landing rights, all on the body as he's able to get a little bit of distance from Twist. The linesmen step in and stop the fight since Kocur's the only one throwing and Twist is just holding on. One-sided fight for sure. Twist only missed a single punch and then just took a bunch of body punches from Kocur. Kocur was still throwing hard, heavy, punches though and Twist was in some pain by the time the fight was over.
 Joonibal
142 fight reviews

Nov 17, 2005 18:33 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
4
One of the few times you will see Twist not thinking offense and just trying to survive. But then who can blame him? It was his rookie season, and he was facing a prime Kocur. Twist just holds his left arm high to ward off face shots from Kocur's right. As a result, Kocur lands just one decent right on Twist's noggin, and the rest he lands are fierce body blows. Twist doesn't land a single shot and possibly may not have even thrown an honest punch.
Anthony19
2976 fight reviews

May 22, 2005 13:48 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
5
drwdan19
1249 fight reviews

Apr 28, 2006 19:04 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
5
SlapShot
207 fight reviews

Jul 4, 2006 16:29 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
4
Can't really add much to what already been said, other than I would have liked to have seen this one later in Twist's career. In this scrap it's all Kocur, landing virtually nothing but body shots to Twist as Twist only appears intent on waiting for the zebras to break it up. I didn't see Twist throw an honest punch, either.
Hogie2
908 fight reviews

Jul 30, 2006 17:31 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
7
CDD
4420 fight reviews
4 fight logs

Oct 6, 2006 15:55 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
6
its all Kocur throwing punch after punch at Twist's ribs.
re
9284 fight reviews

Nov 12, 2006 04:37 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
5
Korcur gives Twist probably 15 hard body shots and 3 good punches to the head.
Hietanen
558 fight reviews

Nov 23, 2008 19:41 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
5
TheDanLine
10951 fight reviews

Jan 14, 2009 18:46 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
7
One of the VERY few times you'll see Twist on defense. It's all Kocur in this one.
MakeFightsMandatory
32 fight reviews

Apr 5, 2009 19:45 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
6
They lock up and Kocur throws a shot Twist reciprocates and then Kocur just goes to the body and doesnt stop. For one of the hardest punchers in league history to do that kind of body work... damn. Twist must have been hurt for him not to throw back, maybe there is a reason that i dont know about but for now i'll assume it was a right hand. Kocur with a clear win here against an all-time heavyweight. And, moreso entertaining for the uncommon amount of hard body shots.
FrAn6
3586 fight reviews

Jul 25, 2011 17:00 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
6
mullet
19723 fight reviews

Aug 2, 2013 06:34 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
5
Twist was the one who wanted to go here, Kocur obliged and then hammered Twist with bodypunches as Twist just held on.
Oneill.the.Giant
11298 fight reviews

Jul 8, 2014 11:31 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
6
scottygiroux
800 fight reviews

Aug 11, 2015 14:17 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
7
Kocur threw basically all of the punches in this fight, 95% of which were to Twist's left ribs. Twist did not try any offence after realizing his right arm was tied up.
SteveTheBossBosse29
3215 fight reviews

Jan 9, 2016 08:59 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
7
Rob07882
363 fight reviews

Mar 1, 2017 14:45 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
6
It looked to me like Kocur knocked the wind out of Twist as he was just content to hang on and never even attempted a punch as Kocur just hammered his rib cage with over a dozen hard rights. Clear win Kocur.
itsJ.Millertime
11822 fight reviews

Jul 31, 2017 14:40 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
5
All Kocur as he alternates from body shots to head shots while Twist never lands a blow the entire fight, clear win Kocur.
supersonic
6002 fight reviews

Jul 31, 2017 21:11 ET
Joey Kocur clear win Fun 
5
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T800m101
Nov 24, 2007 17:18 ET
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chrisY2J
Feb 11, 2012 04:13 ET
Does anyone have the extended clip of this fight? As Kocur is leaving the ice after beating Twist, someone on the Blues bench talks some trash. Joey abruptly turns and makes his way to the Blues bench, but he is stopped by the linesman.Reply
DerDiggler
Oct 15, 2015 11:22 ET
Pre-roids Twist...Reply
TheDanLine
Aug 12, 2016 16:23 ET
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6025
Jan 13 03:52 ET
Yup. The same thing happened vs Probert the following season. He was manhandled yet 5 years later he's an unstoppable monster.Reply


Fight at 60:00
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Duration 0:29ThrownLanded   Big   
 Kelly Chase 5'11'' 2201lb 6731Fair Amount
 Dave Barr 6'1'' 2195lb 61150
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 SarcasticPillow
20454 fight reviews
146 fight logs

Jan 19 16:31 ET
Kelly Chase narrow win Fun 
5
Dave Barr and Kelly Chase find each other at the end of the game and drop the gloves just as the final horn goes. They grapple early on and then Chase throws three rights, landing two. Barr stands back throwing four rights and lands one as Chase turns his head and leans away. Chase backs into the boards but quickly moves off them during a pause. Barr throws four more rights and lands three as Chase turns his head away again and then misses a right. Barr misses a right as Chase misses a right, then Chase throws two rights and lands one. Barr throws two rights and lands one as the linesmen move in on the two and put a stop to things with Barr cut beside the eye and bleeding badly. Not a great fight but they each got some punches in. Barr was more active but it was Chase who did some damage here, cutting Barr by the eye and earning the decision from me.
bradu
891 fight reviews

Mar 13, 2006 22:20 ET
Draw Fun 
4
Barr actually throws more but is bloodied up pretty good over the eye so Chaser landed at least 1 good one. Probably should be a win to Chaser, but the camera work on this one was very poor and you can barely see that both guys are throwing, can't really tell how much lands.
mullet
19723 fight reviews

Aug 2, 2013 06:37 ET
Kelly Chase narrow win Fun 
N/A
Terrible camerawork here. They drop the along the boards but camera starts showing Blues goalie and misses about 6-7 seconds from the beginning. When camera gets back it's pretty even, Barr throws a little more but they land about the same. Barr however is cut pretty badly over his left eye. I give the narrow win to Chase for the damage he did.

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