Dec 7, 1989
Toronto - St. Louis5-2

Summary Of Events
1  6:14  Fight  Kordic-Twist
2  16:05  Fight  Ramage-Chase

Fight at 6:14
HeightWeightPunchesBlood
Duration 0:06ThrownLanded   Big   
 John Kordic 6'1''  220lb 10311None
 Tony Twist 6'1''  230lb 10320
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 BattleshipRules
12410 fight reviews

Jul 1, 2013 15:29 ET
Draw Fun 
4
This had the potential to be a good one. Kordic and Twist were two of the toughest fighters of the era. Tony landed a couple of solid rights. Kordic went down, but a loss of balance was a factor in him slipping to the ice. John got up and landed an average left and a solid connect. The refs stepped in and stopped this one prematurely.

I rate this fight as a draw. Both men landed a couple of effective shots. It was a shame that the refs stopped this one so early. This could have been a classic battle.
 EC
3815 fight reviews
1 fight log

Dec 16, 2015 11:05 ET
Draw Fun 
4
Two very tough men, John Kordic and Tony Twist get into a fight here. Twist gets the edge early on as he lands two hard rights. Kordic stumbles and lose his balance. Twist cocks his right but holds up as he lets Kordic back to his feet. Twist lands one more right before the linesmen prematurely start to get in. However Kordic isn't through and he connects with two lefts on Twist as the linesmen intercede. Twist stumbles to his knees but he gets back up. Twist is fired up and angry over the late punches but the linesmen separate the two men.

Twist was always a respectable fighter who fought fairly while John Kordic was more apt to fight dirty and throw late punches. Twist showed respect by not hitting his downed opponent but Kordic did not return the favor as he threw late punches as the officials came in and Twist was being held. Although that was a bit cheap and disrespectful, it had the desired result as Kordic even up the punch count, making this fight a draw. All things considered, this was a disappointing fight considering the premier fighters involved.
 chrisY2J
1232 fight reviews

Aug 15 15:08 ET
Draw Fun 
5
In the St. Louis zone, Toronto tough guy John Kordic and Blues rookie heavyweight Tony Twist drop 'em and decide to go.

Going after each other immediately, Twist and Kordic latch on to each other and swing away. Twist lands a couple heavy right hands on the helmet, surprising Kordic and making him turn his head away to avoid getting drilled directly in the face. He staggers forward and lands on a knee, but gets right back up, still facing away from his opponent. As Twist had his right hand ready to throw again, Kordic flinched away.

Twist has his right hand locked and loaded, but he doesn't throw another punch. Twist was either thinking Kordic was done or was perhaps showing a little too much respect to his opponent. Either way, Twist let up and it cost him.

The linesmen decide to enter at that point. As they start to get in there, Twist lets down his guard and Kordic quickly takes advantage. Kordic tosses in a couple quick lefts, catching Twist with a good one and staggering the big rookie, who falls momentarily to a knee. The linesmen then succeed in pulling them apart.

Kordic goes to the penalty box. Twist is angry over the sneaky punches and wants to keep going, but the linesman holding him won't let it happen. Twist glares at Kordic as he makes his way to the sin bin.

Each man got in a couple blows. One of Kordic's lefts was the best punch landed in the fight, but John was a little dirty with the way he got Twist. Call it a draw in a mostly uneventful scrap.

Kordic and Twist never battled again in a regular season NHL game. When Twist and Kordic were both members of the Quebec Nordiques in the 1991-92 season, I do believe they had at least one fight during a scrimmage game. I can't recall the result of it.
JruGordon
411 fight reviews

Dec 26, 2004 19:54 ET
Draw Fun 
3
quick fight, 1 knockdown each, then the linesmen came in
hb11
3930 fight reviews

May 12, 2006 11:00 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Twist lands a decent punch, misses the ducking Kordic who falls down and then grazes one off his helmet. The linesmen start to butt in as Kordic throws 2 punches, the first one landing, the second missing and Twist is restrained from continuing. Could have been a good one had the officials not been in the way.
GohabsGo1982
11 fight reviews

May 1, 2007 11:39 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Twist threw one and Kordic slipped. He got back up but the refs got in and Kordic turns and throws a few that puts twist down. It's hard to call but I don't think Kordic deserves a win in this one. A draw would be generous here.
mullet
19515 fight reviews

Oct 13, 2007 15:59 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Nothing fight. I call it a draw, but if I'd have to pick a winner it would be Twist who threw only punches before linesmen stepped in. Kordic's only punches came after linesman had a hold of Twist.
re
9291 fight reviews

Feb 11, 2008 21:07 ET
Draw Fun 
4
Twist got Kordic pretty good early but Kordic rocked Twist late though it was through the linesmen I'll still call it a draw.
Hietanen
558 fight reviews

Nov 23, 2008 19:44 ET
Draw Fun 
4
TheDanLine
9758 fight reviews

Jun 16, 2009 21:08 ET
Draw Fun 
4
Twist rocked Kordic early and dropped him, however, Kordic got back up and popped Twist. Draw.
FrAn6
3443 fight reviews

Jun 19, 2013 12:45 ET
Draw Fun 
4
Oneill.the.Giant
10968 fight reviews

Jul 8, 2014 11:35 ET
Draw Fun 
5
itsJ.Millertime
10053 fight reviews

Aug 7 14:00 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Short fight with Twist landing one and Kordic landing one after the linesmen had come in way too early, draw.
DrTheGlob
113 fight reviews

Aug 12 20:26 ET
John Kordic narrow win Fun 
4
Twist threw big punches that landed but not cleanly. Kordic fired back with rights and scored a flash knockdown on Twist.

Twist put some points on the board but got knocked down momentarily. Since it was more of a flash knockdown and Twist landed a couple scoring punches, I'll give Kordic the narrow win.
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drwdan19
1233 fight reviews

May 26, 2006 19:08 ET
John Kordic clear win Fun 
5
The last shot by Kordic drops Twist to his knees. I'd go TKO, but Twist gets up too quick.
Blow-by-Blow by TheDanLine
#TimeEventFighterDetails
Punch TypeSeparationSpeedMissed / LandedPower ThrownPower LandedPoints
100.00 Gloves Dropped  Both Both Gloves (On Purpose)
201.00 Punch  Tony Twist  Right Haymaker  Arms length  Fast  Landed on forehead
Dropped opponent to knee(s) 
8796
302.00 Punch  Tony Twist  Right Hook  Arms length  Fast  Landed on helmet 8521
404.00 Punch  Tony Twist  Right Haymaker  Arms length  Fast  Possibly Landed 8  
505.00 Punch  John Kordic  Left Jab  1 foot  Very fast  Possibly Landed 5  
606.00 Punch  John Kordic  Left Jab      Landed on left side of head
Dropped opponent to knee(s) 
6696
TotalsPunches ThrownPunches LandedPoints
John Kordic2196
Tony Twist32117
Messages
michiann
Jun 16, 2009 22:26 ET
Nice little get-together here even though the killjoy linesman stuck their noses in their way too early.Reply
TheDanLine
Oct 7, 2011 22:58 ET
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TheDanLine
Apr 17, 2016 13:25 ET
Twist landed a big punch in the beginning.Reply
SarcasticPillow
Apr 17, 2016 15:09 ET
I have this fight on DVD and it's a brighter clip. I slowed it down and every time I watch it I don't think Tony Twist lands either of his initial punches cleanly. Maybe the glance John Kordic's helmet but I would never consider them 'big'. I don't think Twist's punches contributed to Kordic falling down in any significant way.Reply
TheDanLine
Apr 17, 2016 15:51 ET (later updated)
Twist's first punch definitely stings Kordic where he's forced to turn his head away. There's no doubt he was momentarily stunned.Reply
SarcasticPillow
Apr 17, 2016 16:10 ET
I disagree, it looks like his fist goes over the head in my opinion.Reply
TheDanLine
Apr 17, 2016 20:32 ET
I've seen the clip several times and on DVD. Twist's first punch no doubt stuns Kordic.Reply
itsJ.Millertime
Aug 7 14:04 ET (later updated)
I agree with you SP, both punches went over Kordics head. I watched it on slo mo 3 times and came up with the same verdict you did that at best it was a glancing blow to the helmet. I will say though on first view in regular speed I did think he stunned him so it's understandable how others would think that.Reply
BattleshipRules
Aug 7 16:08 ET
Congrats buddy on reaching 10,000 reviews!Reply
itsJ.Millertime
Aug 7 16:29 ET
Thank you, I've finally reached the rarefied air of legends like yourself. :) I've been at this a long time, began trading for VHS tapes back in the 80s so you're talking about a 30+ year love affair with hockey fights. Still going strong too even though the sport and especially fighting are all but dead.Reply
TheDanLine
Aug 9 17:36 ET
Twist's first punch definitely landed well and temporarily stunned Kordic.Reply
itsJ.Millertime
Aug 10 09:07 ET (later updated)
Sorry, watched it again in regular speed and twice more in slo mo and I'm still not seeing it. Maybe the elbow on the follow through connected to a vital area and caused his equilibrium to go off kilter? I guess we'll just have to disagree on this one but our ultimate verdict of a draw is the same so it's not really an issue.Reply
TheDanLine
Aug 10 10:10 ET
It landed on the top of his forhead and the follow through was on the helmet. There's no doubt it caused Kordic to stumble downward.Reply
DrTheGlob
Aug 12 20:18 ET (later updated)
Twist cocked his right in a very obvious manner and Kordic, despite seeming to see the punch coming, was unable to fully duck it. I will say that I see Kordic's head jolted downward very slightly while watching frame-by-frame, but it definitely caught helmet. A scoring punch, but not a big punch by any means.

This is ridiculous. Twist got dropped. You can't negate a knockdown without extraordinary measures. I'm reviewing this as a win for Kordic.

I would furthermore suggest that there is more visual evidence here to suggest that this was NOT a big punch then there is when Doull knocked down Brashear. I would call Doull's punch a TKO before I called this a "big punch" (based on visual evidence).
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TheDanLine
Aug 12 22:45 ET
Not to get off topic here, but I was at the game where Brashear lost to Doull. It most definitely wasn't a TKO and Doull didn't land any quality shots, he landed the only punches to get the win though. As for this fight, Twist landed a punch in the early stages of the fight to cause Kordic to stumble downward. Kordic landed his only solid shot after the linesmen were already between them. To call this a win for Kordic is just dumb. I say draw, but if I was forced to pick a winner it would be Twist.Reply
DrTheGlob
Aug 13 01:21 ET (later updated)
Why do you always say you were at the game? That proves nothing. Being at a game doesn't mean you had a good view, even if they were "good seats".

Again, this is a ridiculous. There is no visual evidence that suggests that Kordic was even remotely stunned by that punch. Nor were Kordic's punches late.

"I say draw, but if I was forced to pick a winner it would be Twist."
This is an argument tactic known as "asserting the opposite"

TheDanLine knows his statement is ridiculous, but he figures that if someone could see the fight as being in Twist's favor, then at the very least, it was a draw but certainly not a win for Kordic. Even though Kordic clearly knocked Twist down.
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TheDanLine
Aug 13 11:06 ET
Lol, I don't always say that. If say it, it means that I had a better view than you, so my opinion obviously carries more weight. There is in fact visual evidence that Kordic was stunned based on the fact that he stumbled forward. It's not hard to figure out. Maybe you need to watch the clip a few more times. I don't know if you have some sort of mental disorder, but Twist landed the only punches before the linesmen get involved. Kordic landed his only solid shot when the linesmen had a hold of Twist. Quit while you're behind.Reply


Fight at 16:05
HeightWeightPunchesBlood
Duration N/AThrownLanded   Big   
 Rob Ramage 6'2'' 3210lb 9N/AN/AN/ANone
 Kelly Chase 5'11'' 3201lb 9N/AN/AN/A
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 BattleshipRules
12410 fight reviews

Jan 24, 2014 17:58 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Chase was on the doorstep of the Toronto goal. Ramage rode him out of the crease. Kelly kicked the puck into the net. Rob hauled him down. Chase got up and was fighting mad. Ramage missed a couple of lefts. Kelly landed a decent right and missed a couple of punches. Ramage gave him a hard takedown.

I rate this as a draw as no one landed a solid punch in the brief scrap. Chase was steaming and continued to yap. He looked like he was pawing at his eye. It may have been scrathced during the skirmish.
 primeau25
181 fight reviews

Feb 1, 2011 20:16 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Ramage graps Chase in front of the Toronto goal and tackles him to the ice.They get get up along the boards and start grappling. Ramage starts to lose his balance and throws out his arm toward Chase's shoulder to keep his balance. Ramage throws one rights that come up short, then Chase fires a wild right over the top of Ramage's helmet. The most entertaining part of the scrap occurs when Ramage pins Chase against the boards and flips him head over heels onto the ice. Weak fight, no winner.
mullet
19515 fight reviews

Oct 13, 2007 15:59 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Chase wanted to throw, Ramage wanted to wrestle and he took Chase down pretty quickly.
supersonic
4177 fight reviews

May 18 08:14 ET
Draw Fun 
3
itsJ.Millertime
10053 fight reviews

Aug 7 14:06 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Ramage did a good job of tying up Chase and keeping him from mounting much offense as he can only land a weak blow or two but at the same time Ramage did zero offensively, draw.
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primeau25
Feb 1, 2011 20:08 ET
the fight clip:

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