Dec 28, 1989
Minnesota - Chicago1-1 OT

Summary Of Events
1  0:00  Fight  Churla-Van Dorp
2  0:00  Bench-Clearing Brawl    
3  0:00  Rough  Churla-Van Dorp
4  0:00  Almost Fight  Wilkinson-Peluso
5  1:33  Almost Fight  Wilkinson-Graham
6  2:07  Rough  Bellows-Sutter
7  4:01  Scrum   7 players 
8  13:01  Scrum   4 players 
9  13:01  Fight  McRae-Secord
10  36:04  Scrum   7 players 
11  36:04  Fight  McRae-Peluso
12  39:50  Rough  Tinordi-Brown
13  40:00  Hit  Murphy-Roenick

Fight at 0:00
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Duration N/AThrownLanded   Big   
 Shane Churla 6'1'' 3200lb 25N/AN/AN/AA Lot
 Wayne Van Dorp 6'4'' 3225lb 25N/AN/AN/A
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May 15, 2016 11:50 ET
Shane Churla decisive win Fun 
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The Chicago Blackhawks and Minnesota North Stars engage in a pre-game incident that saw all of the players involved. However, center stage belonged to Chicago's Wayne Van Dorp and Minnesota's Shane Churla. These two appeared to be the only ones throwing any serious punches as the rest of the players seemed to be only wrestling and jostling around.

From the limited footage we see, Churla and Van Dorp pair off and throw wild right hands at each other. At least one of Churla's rights catches Van Dorp directly in the face. Judging by the way Van Dorp pitched forward and the amount of blood pouring out, Churla definitely hurt Van Dorp badly.

Churla threw several more punches at the back of Wayne's head, and then several other players barged in there and tried to pull them apart. With about four or so players grabbing them, Churla and Van Dorp continue to throw punches at each other, but only one or two shots landed on either man. The struggle between Churla and Van Dorp went on for another half-minute or so, with the two combatants attempting to land punches as their teammates tried to separate them.

Eventually, Churla and Van Dorp were pulled away from each other and the fracas cooled down momentarily. Other than a lot of trash-talking, shoving, and agitating (mainly by Shane's teammate Basil McRae), no more serious fisticuffs occurred after Van Dorp and Churla stopped fighting. Van Dorp left the ice on his own, his face covered with blood.

Van Dorp never made it to the actual game, as apparently his injuries were serious enough to keep him out of the lineup. As a result of Van Dorp's being hurt to the point of not being able to play, call it a decisive win for Churla in a wildly chaotic fight.
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Shane Churla decisive win Fun 
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The era of the bench-clearer was coming to an end. The practice was officially outlawed a couple of years prior, but there were occasional brawls before and after games, not to mention in between period intermissions. Such an event occurred during a "Chuck" Norris Division match-up between Minnesota and Chicago. This was Hanson Brothers stuff as the teams had a brawl in pre-game warm-ups.

There was a few minutes of footage of the event. The opening scene showed a locker room attendant gathering a bunch of gloves that belonged to Minnesota players. The cameras recorded the main event of the brawl. Shane Churla was a top heavyweight in the NHL. He took on Wayne Van Dorp. Van Dorp wasn't one of the better fighters in the league, but he eagerly got involved in the rough stuff on the ice.

The early part of the battle was fair. The Chainsaw got started and it left Van Dorp a bloody mess. Several right hands sliced Wayne to a bloody pulp. Churla landed a solid right and three good shots on the button. The fight was so one-sided that there was plenty of interference the rest of the way. Van Dorp was livid at the battering he endured. Blood was streaming down his face and was all over his uniform.

Adam Creighton and Keith Brown were on hand. Churla was tied up well. Van Dorp was throwing right hands. He landed two average punches and missed a blow. He landed two average punches and missed a shot. Mike Gartner was holding Wayne from behind, but he couldn't corral the big man. Keith Brown and Dave Manson tried to get involved. Mike Modano and Bob Brooke were trying to keep the peace. At one point, Brooke flung Dirk Graham to the ice.

This was a decisive win for Churla. He battered Van Dorp in the fair portion of the fight. Wayne landed some effective shots in the aftermath while Churla was under wraps, but he never landed the equalizer. He left the ice in a bloody mess. As he was leaving, it appeared that Basil McRae came over and taunted him.

This was an embarrassing event for the league. There hadn't been too many teams that challenged the new rules on brawling in the immediate aftermath of them going into place in 1987. NHL Vice-President Brian O'Neill referenced the ten game suspension rule and slapped down Churla and Van Dorp with a long time on the pine. Although the incident wasn't quite covered in the legislation, league officials felt that the beginning of the game brawl violated the spirit of the rules. It was similar in some respects to the pre-game brawl between the Flyers and Canadiens in a marquee playoff game a couple of years before.

The league was trying to get some of the violence under control. There were no officials present during the brawling. Van Dorp was a complete mess in the aftermath. Basil McRae was suspended for five games as well. Van Dorp reported that McRae and Churla crossed the line at center ice and started with him. The league's investigation seemed to lend credence to Wayne's account. McRae was judged to be a key instigator in the brawl, so he was forced to sit for five games.
fanwiththeshoe
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Aug 23, 2005 06:34 ET
Shane Churla decisive win Fun 
9
Classic pre-game warm up event. They fight during a brawl and Churla totally blodies him but it
Anthony19
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Shane Churla decisive win Fun 
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timperley
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Jan 11, 2007 09:40 ET
Shane Churla decisive win Fun 
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churla hammers van dorp, have this one on tape brings back great memories.
DaveRichterfan
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Feb 18, 2007 13:20 ET
Shane Churla decisive win Fun 
8
Pregame brawl with all players milling about. Churla hammers and bloodies Van Dorp. Was not televised as it happened (in Minny) but shown as highlights prior to the game.
JimSmers
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May 12, 2007 18:00 ET
Shane Churla decisive win Fun 
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Churla slaughtered Van Dorp with quick powerful right hands and you could tell that Van Dorp's face was in so much pain he couldn't continue the fight.
mullet
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Oct 19, 2007 15:19 ET
Shane Churla decisive win Fun 
8
Churla hammered Van Dorp with hard rights. Van Dorp was a bloody mess.
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Shane Churla decisive win Fun 
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mullet
Nov 7, 2010 10:12 ET
Shouldnt be unfair, it was a big win for Churla and the interference from other players had nothing to do with him winning the fight. Also there is more footage from the fight than in this newsclip. When it was one on one Churla really hammered Van Dorp and busted his face open before the other players got in.Reply
chrisY2J
Nov 7, 2010 10:20 ET
If only Link Gaetz was in the lineup, too!Reply
mullet
Nov 7, 2010 10:48 ET
this unfair call needs to be canceled, if not, then basically every fight from 70s during bench clearers should be unfair as well.Reply
no.7
Nov 7, 2010 13:38 ET
Quote from message by mullet
there is more footage from the fight than in this newsclip. When it was one on one Churla really hammered Van Dorp and busted his face open before the other players got in.
That footage should be posted here, or at least delivered to Chris. I'm guessing that he hasn't seen it, and this clip doesn't show anything approaching a fair fight. I vaguely remember seeing more of this event, but it was so long ago that I can't recall any detail.
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chrisY2J
Nov 7, 2010 17:34 ET
Churla beat on Van Dorp and busted him up, then the other players dove in, but the fight wasn't over. They kept on throwing punches at each other for a while after the other guys jumped in; both men hit each other a few times with other players holding them at different times. This fight was a total clusterfuck, not a fair fight.Reply
chrisY2J
Nov 7, 2010 19:32 ET
The pre-game brawl was ugly but the fans quite enjoyed it
By Mike Kiley. CHICAGO TRIBUNE. December 29, 1989.

CHICAGO - In one crisp line, Blackhawks centre Denis Savard described a wild game with Minnesota that started with headlocks and ended in a 1-1 deadlock.

"It's not nice to see what happened for the game's sake, but I'm sure the fans enjoyed it," he said.

Chicago and the Minnesota North Stars were about nine minutes into their 20-minute skating warmup Thursday night when chaos broke out at the Stadium to the delight of the early arrivals in a crowd that later swelled to a hungry 18,472 as it smelled blood in the air.

The ensuing free-for-all turned into a tense and ugly seven-minute pre-game skirmish that will cost both organizations $25,000 in fines and could lead to further penalties after NHL officials review the film.

"The goalies were the winners," Jeremy Roenick said of Alain Chevrier stopping 30 Minnesota shots and Jon Casey making 34 saves for the Stars in a game that featured 132 penalty minutes.

Savard scored on a five-minute power play, set up by a match penalty against Basil McRae for kneeing Chicago's Mike Peluso at the conclusion of their second-period fight. Neal Broten's first-period goal was all Chevrier missed.

It was McRae's mean-mannered mouth that the Hawks blamed in large part for igniting the fires in the warmup. He and Shane Churla were the instigators, the Hawks insisted.

'A black mark'

"Hopefully they will be suspended for their actions," coach Mike Keenan said. "It's a black mark on hockey and there's no room in the game for what they did."

Chicago's Wayne Van Dorp said Churla slashed him twice after coming over the line at mid-ice to pick a fight.

"McRae and Churla both came over the line," said Van Dorp, whose bloodied arm was x-rayed to make sure no bones were broken. He also suffered facial cuts.

"This isn't junior hockey. This is professional hockey and it's uncalled for. It happened because nothing was done about it last time in Minnesota."

On Nov. 4 in Minnesota, these teams also had an altercation in warmups and the Hawks blamed McRae for egging Al Secord and Van Dorp into an incident that didn't go beyond some shoving, pushing and swearing that night.

Because NHL referees and linesmen aren't on the ice for pre-game warmups, this tussle wasn't finished until Minnesota coaches walked on to the ice and waved and pulled their players to the exit door.

Watching the film

Keenan looked on from the door that leads off the ice to his dressing room, while assistants E.J. McGuire and Jacques Martin watched from the bench.

Matt Pavelich, the NHL supervisor of officials for this game, pointed out the league rule that assesses clubs an automatic $25,000 fine for altercations that occur outside the periods. He said referee Dan Marouelli didn't issue any penalties as a result of the melee, but film will be sent to NHL executive vice-president Brian O'Neill, who will decide if further action will be taken.

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Brawlers feel the heat
AP. The Ottawa Citizen. Jan 7, 1990.

MONTREAL (AP) -- Wayne Van Dorp of the Chicago Blackhawks and Shane Churla of the Minnesota North Stars both were suspended for 10 games and their teams each were fined $25,000 Saturday by the NHL for their pregame fight Dec. 28.

In addition, Minnesota's Basil McRae was suspended for five games without pay. Churla, McRae, Mark Tinordi and Dave Mackey of the North Stars and Van Dorp, Duane Sutter, Dirk Graham and Bob McGill of the Blackhawks each were fined $500.

The suspensions will take effect Jan. 13 unless the teams notify the NHL within 24 hours that they will not appeal.

The major participants in the incident -- Van Dorp, Churla and McRae -- along with their respective general mangers -- Chicago's Bob Pulford and Jack Ferreira of Minnesota -- met with NHL vice-president Brian O'Neill in Toronto on Friday.

O'Neill had not been expected to render a decision on that meeting until Monday.

The North Stars and Blackhawks got into a full-scale fight a half-hour before their game at Chicago Stadium. Every player eventually got involved in the brawl.

O'Neill said at the time the teams were automatically fined $25,000 each for taking part.

"In 1987, the NHL adopted significant legislation to deal specifically with this type of incident," O'Neill said. "This is the first such incident since the new rule was adopted."
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no.7
Nov 8, 2010 00:37 ET
Quote from message by chrisY2J
Churla beat on Van Dorp and busted him up, then the other players dove in, but the fight wasn't over. They kept on throwing punches at each other for a while after the other guys jumped in; both men hit each other a few times with other players holding them at different times. This fight was a total clusterfuck, not a fair fight.
Thanks for the info. Sounds like for a while the fight was fair. The question is whether this "fair part" of the fight was conclusive.

You called it a Decisive win which means that Van Dorp ended up in a hopeless situation. If he ended up in a hopeless situation at the end of the "fair part", what happened afterwards doesn't really matter because the fight has already been decided by then.

Is this what actually happened?
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mullet
Nov 8, 2010 07:32 ET
Quote from message by no.7
That footage should be posted here, or at least delivered to Chris. I'm guessing that he hasn't seen it, and this clip doesn't show anything approaching a fair fight. I vaguely remember seeing more of this event, but it was so long ago that I can't recall any detail.
Yes, hopefully someone can post a video that shows more from the fight. I agree that the later part of the fight was unfair because other players were in, but when the two were throwing punches by themselves and no one was interfering, Churla beat Van Dorp badly and at that point it was completely fair fight. Churla's big win shouldn't be canceled by calling it unfair just because other players got in mainly to help Van Dorp who was a bloody mess.
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chrisY2J
Nov 11, 2010 09:25 ET
Quote from message by mullet
Yes, hopefully someone can post a video that shows more from the fight. I agree that the later part of the fight was unfair because other players were in, but when the two were throwing punches by themselves and no one was interfering, Churla beat Van Dorp badly and at that point it was completely fair fight. Churla's big win shouldn't be canceled by calling it unfair just because other players got in mainly to help Van Dorp who was a bloody mess.
Now that I think about it more and after reading Mullet's viewpoints, I will cancel the unfair call. He is right: when they were by themselves, Churla hammered Van Dorp fairly. The other players were de facto linesmen (since no zebras were around) and stopped the fight. It's not as if the players jumped in and THEN Churla applied the beating to someone being held. When conditions were fair and even, Churla earned the decisive win.

You can liken this to the Grimson-Churla fight of 96-97. Churla's Ranger teammates saved him, but the fight itself was fair.
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JimMcKenzie
Feb 1, 2017 14:09 ET
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BattleshipRules
Feb 1, 2017 17:04 ET
"A bunch of boys having good, clean fun." Haha. You got to love Basil McCrae in the interview.Reply


Bench-Clearing Brawl at 0:00
Minnesota PlayersChicago Players
Duration 12:00  Brian Bellows  Bob Brooke  Neal Broten  Jon Casey  Shane Churla  Gaetan Duchesne  Dave Gagner  Mike Gartner  Stewart Gavin  David Mackey  Basil McRae  Larry Murphy  Frank Musil  Jarmo Myllys  Mark Tinordi  Neil Wilkinson     Keith Brown  Alain Chevrier  Adam Creighton  Mike Eagles  Dirk Graham  Steve Konroyd  Steve Larmer  Bob Murray  Mike Peluso  Wayne Presley  Jeremy Roenick  Cam Russell  Everett Sanipass  Denis Savard  Al Secord  Duane Sutter  Wayne Van Dorp   
# Players Involved: N/A
Blood: A Lot
Basil McRae suspended for 5 games
Wayne Van Dorp suspended for 10 games
Shane Churla suspended for 10 games
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This was a wild brawl that broke out in pre-game warm-ups. Apparently, there was some recent history between the teams. Basil McRae had started some trouble on November 4. He had instigated some pushing and shoving with Al Secord and Wayne Van Dorp. No fighting resulted from that event, but McRae thought he could take some of the Black Hawks out of their game with some trash talking and machismo.

Van Dorp said that McRae and Shane Churla crossed the line during the warm-ups. Apparently, Van Dorp was slashed on his arm. He had the arm looked at by a physician in the aftermath. No bones were broken, but there was a laceration. Tempers flared and the event escalated into a brawl between the two teams. Van Dorp and Churla was the main event.

The fight was one-sided. The Chainsaw carved up Wayne with a volley of heavy right hands. Van Dorp was in serious trouble and some teammates bailed him out. Dave Manson, Keith Brown, and Adam Creighton were nearby and they corralled Churla. Van Dorp was embarrassed and furious. Little Mike Gartner was hanging off his back, but he wasn't able to keep Wayne from landing some rights. Van Dorp landed four effective rights, but nothing huge or damaging.

There were no other fights during the brawl. There were wrestling matches and some pushing and shoving. Dirk Graham tried to leap into the action, but he was hauled down to the ice by Bob Brooke. Manson was really agitated, but he wasn't able to exact any payback.

The event was worth seeing. Van Dorp was pummeled and left a bloody mess. He landed several punches on Churla after Shane was tied up by some other players. There was a good amount of posturing and there was the chance that other fights could break out. Some may have thought about the consequences of their actions based on the harsh rules established by the league in 1987.

There was a media frenzy in the aftermath of this brawl. Mike Keenan was irate and called for McRae and Churla to receive harsh suspensions. This was ironic and somewhat hypocritical. Keenan had no problem with intimidation tactics and encouraged it. He unleashed Val James on the AHL as a coach for the Rochester Amerks. He coached one of the most brutal goon squads ever with some of the Flyers teams in the mid-to-late 1980's. He had Dave "Charlie" Manson as the primary enforcer on this Hawks team. He had a bevy of tough guys with the Florida Panthers after many teams were starting to de-emphasize enforcing. My guess is that Keenan was unhappy with the damage done to Van Dorp rather than being disgusted with hockey violence in general. In fact, the Minnesota coaching staff came out to escort players off the ice, while Keenan remained in the dressing room.

Another element to the harsh measures taken by the league was Basil McRae's interview after the brawl. McRae looked smug like the kid who was caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He said that both teams were fired up to face the divisional rivals. He claimed that someone on Chicago had said something that went "over the line". He was pleased that "none of our guys got hurt". He was careful to point out that nothing "was premeditated". He concluded the interview by giving a coy smile and saying that the event was "A bunch of boys having good clean fun".

League officials weren't amused by the brawl or McRae's comments. NHL Vice-President Brian O'Neill referenced the anti-brawling rules established in 1987. Despite Keenan's protestations, Van Dorp was given a ten game suspension. Churla was given a ten game suspension. McRae was given five games for his role in instigating the melee. Overall, this was a wild event and it demonstrated that it was not going to be easy to reduce the violent altercations that broke out when fierce rivals got together on the ice.
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Anthony19
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Jan 28, 2005 17:55 ET
Churla and Van Dorp Go at it and Churla Bloodies Van Dorp very badly. This is all in the Pre-Game warm up. Fun 
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 Fun 
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Gotta love it, a pre game brawl between two rivals. Lots of emotion and intensity being shown but only one big fight. Fun 
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Anthony19
Jan 28, 2005 17:58 ET
I didnt know wither or not to call this a fight or a Bench Clearer. I have news clips that only show this fight, but they dont say if anything else happens. So I called it a bench-clearer just in case.Reply
no.7
Jan 29, 2005 01:23 ET
It was a bench brawl. I have a Minnesota feed of the game - it shows several wild-looking clips which leave no doubt that everybody on the ice for the warm-up was involved. Not enough for a proper review though. I've no idea if any other footage of this event exists.Reply
Anonymous
Apr 3, 2005 23:15 ET
It was a bench clearer, Wayne Van Dorp got completely destroyed and other Hawks like Wayne Presley had to jump in to protect him. I remember seeing the film of this. Big Victory for ChurlaReply
Jocke
Jan 25, 2006 05:37 ET
McRae was suspended for five games by the NHL and fined $500 during the 1989-90 season for his role in this pregame brawl. The suspension was announced on Jan. 6, 1990, and Minnesota failed in its effort to appeal it, forcing McRae to begin serving the suspension on Jan. 13, 1990.Reply
Jocke
Jan 28, 2006 11:26 ET
Dave Mackey was also fined $500 by the NHL for his role in the brawl. The suspension was announced on Jan. 6, 1990.Reply
Anthony19
Jul 15, 2006 02:24 ET
I have the Footage of the entire Brawl. No other players faught. Basil McRae just went around trying to fight everybody, but no one went with him. Smith tried, but North Star players blocked him off.Reply
NATE77
Dec 26, 2006 22:19 ET
McRae was looking for Secord. he was skating around, finally he found Secord who was with Gavin,and they just drawed. Mackey was suspended cause he did throw a punch at Sanipass.Reply
Churla27
Apr 14, 2007 16:44 ET
Churla and Van Dorp got 10 games eachReply
sickboy
Jun 29, 2008 07:57 ET
Dirk Graham was fined $500 by NHL for role in fight during pre-game skate before Chicago's Dec. 28, 1989, game vs. Minnesota. The fine was announced on Jan. 6, 1990.Reply
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Jan 30, 2017 03:47 ET
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chrisY2J
Nov 11, 2010 09:30 ET
After their fight is broken up by the other players, Churla and Van Dorp continue to go after each other for another half-minute or so. Each man throws some punches, but nothing much lands. Eventually, they are completely separated and the severely bloodied Van Dorp leaves the ice on his own.Reply


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 Neil Wilkinson 6'3'' 1194lb 31None
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clackson3
Apr 29, 2009 19:59 ET
"I think I squared off with Neil Wilkinson. We didn't throw any punches as we were only mingling around. Van Dorp was scratched from the game because of the scuffle during warm up."-From a recent interview with Mike Peluso, found on HF.com or H-F.com.Reply


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 Neil Wilkinson 6'3'' 4194lb 4N/A
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Mar 12, 2009 20:27 ET
Dirk Graham and Neil Wilkinson collide with each other and as Graham skates away, Wilkinson gives Graham a jab with the stick. Graham turns right around and goes back at Wilkinson. They lose the mitts but a linesman gets between them and keeps them apart. Fun 
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SarcasticPillow
Mar 12, 2009 20:28 ET
The almost fight.

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 Brian Bellows 5'11'' 2210lb 20N/A
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Jan 1, 2010 11:33 ET
Brian Bellows and Duane Sutter start wrestling with each other and other players try to get involved but are kept out. Bellows and Sutter lose the gloves and continue wrestling even though a linesman is right there trying to break them up. Soon they stop and the linesman separates the two. Fun 
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Jan 1, 2010 11:28 ET
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Scrum at 4:01
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Duration 0:27  Shane Churla  David Mackey  Mark Tinordi     Steve Larmer  Cam Russell  Denis Savard  Trent Yawney   
# Players Involved: 7
Blood: None
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There's a lot of physical play on a shift with the Chicago Blackhawks getting best of it against the rival Minnesota North Stars. Greg Gilbert narrowly misses a low hit on Shane Churla and then bowls over Mark Tinordi, knocking off his helmet before Cam Russell pastes Churla into the boards from behind. Russell is called for the hit and in the stoppage, David Mackey gives Russell a shove while skating past. Steve Larmer directs Mackey away while Tinordi barges in, shoving with Russell and then Trent Yawney. Churla comes in and grabs hold of Yawney while Denis Savard pairs off with Tinordi. One linesman grabs Russell while the other linesman works on breaking up Tinordi and Savard. Churla and Yawney drop the gloves and wrestle over to the boards, Churla the aggressor. However neither throws a punch and a linesman eventually gets over there to break them up. Just a small, heated, scrum. Fun 
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Jan 1, 2010 11:30 ET
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Scrum at 13:01
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Jan 7 13:52 ET
13:01 CHI Cam Russell: Roughing - 2 min
13:01 CHI Duane Sutter: Roughing - 2 min
13:01 MNS Mark Tinordi: Roughing - 2 min
13:01 MNS Stew Gavin: Roughing - 2 min
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Fight at 13:01
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 Basil McRae 6'2'' 1205lb 71570None
 Al Secord 6'1'' 1212lb 7740
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Nov 27, 2014 11:21 ET
Basil McRae narrow win Fun 
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Secord and McRae decided it was time to go. Al missed a punch and landed a partial connect. He landed a decent left. Basil landed an average blow and missed two lefts. He landed a couple of light punches. Rocky missed a right and landed an average left. McRae landed a partial connect and missed two punches.

Secord landed a partial connect. Basil missed a punch. Al missed a left and a right. McRae landed two solid blows and missed two rights. Rocky missed a left. The refs stepped in and Secord kept punching. He landed two average blows, but they were late after the official interference.

I rate this as a narrow win for McRae. Secord hung in there in the infighting contest early, but McRae stepped on the gas late. The late Razzle Dazzle was enough to earn the win.
 SarcasticPillow
20454 fight reviews
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Nov 12, 2017 10:41 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
5
Basil McRae and Al Secord line up for a draw and when the puck drops, McRae initiates a fight with Secord. They square up and then Secord moves in, missing a left as they both get a hold on each others' jerseys. Secord misses another left and McRae throws three lefts, landing one weakly to the back of the head. Secord keeps his head down while missing a left, then after McRae misses two lefts, Secord lands a left lightly to the side of the head. They wrestle briefly and McRae loosens up his left arm in the process, getting free to throw three lefts, two of them connecting to the side and top of Secord's head. McRae pauses before landing a left to the side of the head, then Secord misses a right while McRae lands another left to the head. McRae misses a follow up left and Secord misses a left before they wrestle. Secord misses a left again while the linesmen follow them around. McRae misses two lefts and then Secord puts his head down before landing a right to the back of the helmet. McRae tries to loosen his right arm up, throwing five rights and landing two, one to the body and one to the back of the head as Secord, who gets turned away, goes to a knee. Secord gets back up to miss a left as the linesmen step in and put a stop to things there. McRae was in control and landed more punches, getting the clear win over the veteran power forward, Secord. These two had tried to get at each other during the pregame brawl but never found a way to meet up so this fight came about as a result.
 no.7
1291 fight reviews
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Nov 30, 2002 01:43 ET
Basil McRae narrow win Fun 
6
A pretty dance, then Secord moves in, lands a left on the body and they tie each other up for a moment. McRae gets the better of the tangle because he can punch with his left and does. He lands several of them, scoring points rather than doing damage. Secord tries to come back with a right and then a left, but his punches from defensive position have little chance of finding the target. They tie each other up again, and here we go again - McRae gets his left free and starts punching, this time with power. He gets one in, switches to left uppercuts and lands a good one which visibly shakes Secord up. The refs move in and suddenly Secord comes up with his best move of the fight, throwing a couple of lefts over the linesmen's arms.
EddieShore
911 fight reviews

Jan 7, 2007 22:54 ET
Basil McRae narrow win Fun 
6
Both dance around with each other for almost the entire fight. Both fighters switched hands during the fight. McRae certainly was the more active fighter, although Secord was fairly accurate with his punches. They stayed close to each other throughout the fight and never landed anything really hard. Secord ended the fight by throwing two big overhand lefts while the linesmen were breaking up the combatants.
mullet
19723 fight reviews

Nov 3, 2007 09:59 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
5
McRae controls it and lands most of the punches. Secord gets in one or two cheapshots after linesmen have already jumped in.
michiann
3646 fight reviews

Jun 3, 2011 22:35 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
N/A
Secord hugged in with his head kept low like a scaredy-cat ... doesn't he think he's tough enough to go face-to-face with a middle-weight like Mcrae? He landed 2 punches while mcrae landed 5 facial punches + 1 head shot. At the end, 1 of the last 2 punches by mcrae rocked secord enough to momentarily send him down but secord got halfway back up, so that we can't call it a tko.
itsJ.Millertime
11822 fight reviews

Nov 30, 2016 00:24 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
5
So so fight, a lot of in tight fighting which McRae has control for most of the fight and once he gains some space he really pops him good a couple times, clear win for McRae.
supersonic
6002 fight reviews

Feb 1, 2017 21:03 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
5
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Nov 25, 2014 16:25 ET
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vsurov2
Nov 17, 2017 06:05 ET
13:01 CHI Cam Russell: Roughing - 2 min
13:01 CHI Duane Sutter: Roughing - 2 min
13:01 MNS Basil McRae: Fighting - 5 min
13:01 CHI Al Secord: Fighting - 5 min
13:01 MNS Mark Tinordi: Roughing - 2 min
13:01 MNS Stew Gavin: Roughing - 2 min
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TheDanLine
Nov 17, 2017 16:03 ET
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Scrum at 36:04
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Duration 1:05  Dave Gagner  Stewart Gavin  Basil McRae     Mike Eagles  Mike Peluso   
# Players Involved: 7
Blood: None
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 SarcasticPillow
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Jan 12 17:05 ET
Basil McRae wants a piece of Mike Peluso after a whistle but Keith Brown steps in front of Peluso to keep McRae away. McRae and Brown have words and with tempers still high at this stage of the game, the linesmen are in there fast. However other players are also quickly there and Mike Eagles gets into it with Stewart Gavin. Gavin spins around wildly getting away from Eagles and then skates over to where a linesman has a hold of McRae. Duane Sutter comes in to have some words for Gavin but is kept back by Dave Gagner. Brown goes back at McRae and grabs him, still between him and Peluso who wades into the crowd as well. Brown then leaves and grabs hold of Gagner, who's following Sutter around. McRae is then lead away by a linesman, who's talking to McRae and trying to get him settled but Peluso comes out of the crowd and follows McRae. Gavin gets in front of Peluso to keep him back but then Sutter steps in and grabs Gavin. Peluso gets to McRae but the linesman tries to hold them back, despite both clearly wanting to go. McRae tells the linesmen to get out and tries to break his hold while Peluso is also talking to the linesman, trying to get him to let go. Sutter and Gavin start wrestling in the meantime, Sutter holding Gavin by his visor as a linesman maanges to work right between them to try and break it up. Suddenly though, the linesman between Peluso and McRae lets them go. They immediately engage in a fight and it's a long, entertaining, one with McRae in control and outlasting Peluso to take the win. Fun 
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Fight at 36:04
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 Basil McRae 6'2'' 2205lb 2027140None
 Mike Peluso 6'4'' 2225lb 201910
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 EC
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Jan 25, 2008 22:08 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
7
This fight happened during a brawl. The linesmen tried to keep them apart but they wouldn't be denied and they find each other. They start off in very tight and they each throw a few quick punches early on. Peluso is being very defensive as he buries his head in McRae's chest. McRae gets Peluso's helmet off and throws a couple of rights to the back of Peluso's head. Peluso starts coming back with some lefts but because Peluso has put his head down and is just firing away most of his punches miss and only 2 land. Peluso buries his head in McRae's chest again and they wrestle their way around the ice. McRae is able to land a few rights but Peluso is able to get his helmet off. Peluso misses with a few more lefts but McRae really starts to land some rights. They start wrestling again as Peluso is trying to hang on for dear life because McRae's sleeves are made of velcro and were torn right off. They move down the ice tossing a few short punches before Peluso swings wildly with a right completely missing and he falls to the ice. If you ask me it looked like he missed purposely to fall so he could get out of the fight as McRae was giving it to him pretty good but bear in mind Peluso could only hang onto the jersey and he couldn't tie up his opponent so he opponent was free to throw as many punches as he pleased to.

This fight changed Peluso's fighting style. In an interview Peluso said "My fighting strategy was pretty straightforward. I just started throwing lefts and didn't stop until either one of us went down or the linesmen broke us up. I didn't grab on a lot either. I learned my lesson from guys like Basil McRae who used to cut his sleeves and then velcro them together so that when you grabbed them they would just tear away up to the shoulder. When you had nothing to grab onto you were screwed, so I tried to go as long as I could before grabbing ahold of my opponents."

This shows what seperates the okay fighters from the good ones. The good fighters know what to do to come out on the right side of a scrap and study their opponents and will change their styles if need be. I wish more fighters in the NHL were like this today because some are doing really badly like Andrew Peters who really needs to change his style.
 BattleshipRules
13000 fight reviews

Sep 18, 2013 20:49 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
7
McRae was the grizzled veteran and he schooled the youngster and gave Peluso a rude welcome to NHL fighting. Basil had the advantage from start ot finish. He landed a couple of average blows and a couple of decent punches. He landed a partial connect, missed a punch, and landed a partial connect.

Mike missed a couple of right hands. He landed a decent blow, missed a couple of punches, and landed a decent left. McRae landed a decent right and missed a punch. He missed a few right hands. Peluso missed a few lefts.

Basil landed a solid right, missed a couple of punches, and landed a couple of solid connects. Mike missed a couple of lefts. McRae missed a punch, landed an average blow, and missed a punch. Peluso landed a partial connect. Basil landed an average left. Mike missed a left and slipped to the ice. McRae missed a couple of punches as the refs were stepping in to stop the contest.

I rate this as a clear win for McRae. It was a brilliant tactical performance. Peluso was switching hands and throwing a good amount of punches, but he was not landing with much. The blows he did land were not very powerful. Basil landed a number of blows and won the fight in one-sided fashion.
 SarcasticPillow
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Apr 15, 2017 10:50 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
7
Chicago Blackhawks have big Mike Peluso up from the IHL for this game against the rival Minnesota North Stars and Peluso wants a piece of veteran enforcer, Basil McRae during a stoppage. McRae is grabbed by a linesman though and escorted away but Peluso continues after McRae for a long while, eventually getting to him. The linesman tries to keep Peluso back but eventually decides to just step out and let them go. McRae and Peluso come together with Peluso missing a left and ducking as McRae misses a right. Peluso gets in close and loses his helmet before lifting his head and missing a right after McRae misses a right. McRae throws four rights and lands one, then Peluso raises his head and McRae misses a right. Peluso throws five lefts and lands one as McRae leans away, then Peluso gets bent over trying to keep McRae from standing back. McRae misses two rights, then Peluso raises his head and reaches for McRae's helmet. McRae throws two rights and connects with one, then Peluso leans away and misses a right before ducking as McRae misses two rights. Peluso knocks off McRae's helmet and then misses three lefts while getting bent over again. McRae lands a good right and then misses a right as Peluso raises his head and misses a left. Peluso then misses a left and misses a right before getting a hand into McRae's face while McRae throws four rights and lands one. Peluso ducks again and then McRae misses a right before Peluso raises his head and misses a left. McRae tries to stand back, getting Peluso bent over, and throws five rights, connecting on two. McRae then misses a left and Peluso raises his head, missing a left afterwards. They grapple and stand back, then Peluso misses a right and falls over. McRae falls on top of Peluso throwing two rights and landing one, then knees him as the linesmen get in. Good fight with McRae controlling it and landing many more punches than Peluso who was fairly tentative in this tilt.
 no.7
1291 fight reviews
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Nov 30, 2002 01:44 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
7
Ref Marouelli and a linesman try to keep these two apart during a brawl between the two teams, but finally have to give up and let them go.

Peluso is fresh from the minors playing in his 1st NHL game. He wants to impress the crowd and appears to want to fight even more than McRae. However, when they come together and tie each other up, Peluso immediately takes a defensive position, burying his head in McRae's chest. McRae opens with a series of right hooks to the head, then lands a right on the body and tries straight rights. Peluso finally responds with a flurry of lefts, but he keeps his head glued to McRae's body and every punch he attempts is blind, even though some of them do look impressive. He can only connect by accident whereas McRae knows exactly what he's doing. As Peluso takes a chance separating himself for a moment, McRae lands a good right, the best punch of the fight. Peluso just hangs on from that point on, burying his head once again in McRae's chest. McRae tries various punches almost unopposed, landing a few. Finally, Peluso gets loose, takes a mighty swing with his right, misses and goes down. More likely than not, he does that on purpose just to end the fight. Which is exactly what happens. They spend last 20 seconds locked up on the ice with a couple of refs on top of them.

McRae appears to hit Peluso with his knee as they are down on the ice and he is awarded a 5+match for that on top of the fighting major.
Rautakorpi
20 fight reviews

Aug 3, 2005 05:58 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
8
Cementhead
146 fight reviews

Nov 29, 2006 15:53 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
7
Peluso gets his first NHL fight with Basil McRae.Basil has the upperhand in this one.
mullet
19723 fight reviews

May 20, 2008 09:24 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
7
heezgawn
65 fight reviews

Feb 23, 2012 08:57 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
7
A fight between veteran brawler Basil McRae and a Blackhawk rookie named Mike Peluso in one of the wildest nights in the history of Chicago Stadium. Peluso, in his first NHL game, would of course go on to have a notable career as an NHL hand thrower. Basil pretty much schools the rookie in this one, keeping Peluso tied up in his jersey but without allowing it to come completely off. McRae peppers big Mike with rights and lefts, although nothing damaging, while Peluso, jersey over his head, gamely keeps trying to throw, actually catching Basil with one good right hand to the jaw. The tilt ends with McRae on top of Peluso on the ice. Note the blood soaked jersey of Steve Larmer (#28 Chicago) at the beginning of the tape; it is Wayne Van Dorp's blood from the pre-game brawl.
FrAn6
3586 fight reviews

Sep 23, 2014 19:05 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
7
supersonic
6002 fight reviews

Feb 1, 2017 21:05 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
7
itsJ.Millertime
11822 fight reviews

Aug 22, 2017 15:52 ET
Basil McRae clear win Fun 
7
Peluso hung in there through the early stages but McRae began to take over as the fight went on and by the end was landing several blows to only one by Peluso, clear win McRae.
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BaloneyCyst
Jun 11, 2006 15:04 ET
I think it needs to be mentioned that during this fight the Minnesota announcer praised the N. Stars trainer for doing a great job with Basil's velcro sleeves. Anytime I hear announcers praise a guy for getting the jersey off or altering their equipment it bothers me. I like Basil, but, hey......for a while there he did the velcro thing. That's sort of lame.

If people are going to talk about Ray (obviously) with the bare chest, then this needs to be acknowledged as well. Just my opinion.
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Westbendhockey
Jun 11, 2006 20:40 ET
John Kordic also used the velcro during this season and Marty McSorley was wearing a goalies jersey. Towards the end of the season the NHL stepped in and said these guys could not resort to these sort of tactics.Reply
Vindigidy
Feb 28, 2011 21:33 ET
Peluso...

"I remember Basil McRae was on the ice. There was some pushing and shoving. No gloves were dropped yet as there was a linesman in between us. The ref said let them go, so we did. It was a pretty good fight. The only problem back then was you could alter equipment. Both Basil and Churla had velcro. They would cut their sleeves, and when you grabbed on, the velcro would rip. Their sleeves would go all the way up to past their elbow pads and you really couldn't grab on to anything. But it was a good fight. You just go into it and try to represent the team you're playing for."
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Feb 23, 2012 08:59 ET
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Feb 9, 2017 10:53 ET
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Jan 12 17:05 ET
Greg Gilbert interferes with Jon Casey as a goal gets scored but it's immediately waved off. Upset by the interference, Mark Tinordi steps into Gilbert and flattens him as his teammates celebrate the goal before realizing it's been waved off. Then they go in to help out Gilbert who gets up wanting back at Tinordi. A linesman gets between them and then Gilbert gets pulled away before Keith Brown comes in after Tinordi. Tinordi grabs Brown around the head, pulling his helmet off as Brown throws two weak gloved rights over the linesman, landing one. Tinordi steps back and Brown misses a gloved right so Tinordi comes back with a missing gloved left as Brown misses another gloved right. Tinordi tries to grab Brown again but Gilbert pulls Tinordi back a little bit while Brown drops his left glove. The linesmen pulls Brown away so no fight can take place. Fun 
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LukeLaC
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Jul 18, 2014 16:23 ET
They pushed and shoved over the linesman in the North Stars net. Brown lost his helmet. Both got roughing minor. Fun 
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 SarcasticPillow
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Feb 20, 2010 20:09 ET
Larry Murphy gets a giveaway from Al Secord and then starts up with it. Just as Murphy begins skating away he loses his balance and falls down. Jeremy Roenick comes in and throws a hit on Murphy that ends up being a shoulder check to the upper body that knocks Murphy to the ice. Fun 
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