Jan 5, 1997
Detroit - Chicago5-5 OT 

Summary Of Events
1  2:04  Fight  Pushor-Cummins
2  2:13  Fight  Kocur-Probert
3  34:12  Fight  Kocur-Russell

Fight at 2:04
HeightWeightPunchesBlood
Duration 0:26ThrownLanded   Big   
 Jamie Pushor 6'3'' 1218lb 8720None
 Jim Cummins 6'2'' 1210lb 8720
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 EC
4834 fight reviews
1 fight log

Mar 15, 2009 20:39 ET
Draw Fun 
4
Cam Russell scores for Chicago and Mike Vernon skates out to complain about it. Meanwhile Jim Cummins and Jamie Pushor have dropped the gloves.

Cummins lands a right early on. Pushor responds with a right and Cummins throws 2 rights that don't land. Pushor does manage to get one in before they grapple. Cummins throws a right to the back of the head before losing his helmet. Cummins misses with another right and the 2 get in close and wrestle. The linesmen then come in.

Draw as the 2 landed evenly. Not a very entertaining scrap.
 SarcasticPillow
20684 fight reviews
151 fight logs

May 17, 2014 20:44 ET
Draw Fun 
4
Cam Russell scores but some commotion at the net draws the ire of Mike Vernon who goes right at the referee to argue the goal call. As Jim Cummins is celebrating, Jamie Pushor grabs at Cummins. Cummins turns and gets shoved by Pushor and they shed the mitts. After getting a grip on each others' sweaters Cummins lands a right but Pushor lands two rights. They stand back as Pushor misses two rights, then Cummins lands a right. Pushor misses a right and then misses a right as Cummins misses a right. Cummins misses a right while being pushed back into the boards by Pushor. Pushor misses a right and Cummins slides off the boards. Cummins misses three rights as his helmet comes off and Pushor moves in close when Cummins ducks. They wrestle briefly and the referees break up the scrap. Draw in a pretty bad tilt.
 BattleshipRules
13130 fight reviews

Oct 17, 2014 14:45 ET
Jim Cummins narrow win Fun 
4
Cummins and Pushor decided to go. Jim landed an average punch and missed two rights. Jamie missed a punch, landed a partial connect, and missed a few shots. Cummins landed a partial connect and landed a solid blow. He missed a shot. Pushor missed a right. The refs stopped the fight.

I rate this as a narrow win for Cummins. I thought his blows were more effective.
michiann
3646 fight reviews

Jan 28, 2014 10:56 ET
Jim Cummins narrow win Fun 
N/A
This begins as a fight in progress after the whistle. Both guys are seen tussling with the gloves already dropped. Cummins lands 1 facialpunch followed by Pushor landing 1 facialpunch. Then Cummins follows that up with 1 facalpunch. Just after this, Cummins still wants to swing and misses a swing due to Pushor going into complete defensive mode and not wanting to fight anymore. Cummins is still the active one up to when the refs intervene. Narrow win for Cummins.
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SarcasticPillow
Jan 25, 2009 17:07 ET
The fight.

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Fight at 2:13
HeightWeightPunchesBlood
Duration 0:56ThrownLanded   Big   
 Joey Kocur 6'0'' 3220lb  1070None
 Bob Probert 6'3'' 3220lb  840
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 chrisY2J
1235 fight reviews

Sep 6, 2010 07:32 ET
Joey Kocur narrow win Fun 
6
Bob Probert and Joey Kocur, the legendary Bruise Brothers, have an on-ice fight in the NHL for the third and final time of their illustrious careers. After a faceoff, Probert and Kocur shed the mitts and have a lengthy squareoff, then join in battle.

For the most part, this was a battle of stamina, strength, and grappling more than punching. Probert seemed a little wary of Kocur's right hand and sought to keep it under control. Kocur was a bit more aggressive in this fight and he landed a few more punches than Probert did overall, though both tough guys got some shots in.

Kocur tossed several rights while in-tight, landing two or three shots to the side of the head. Probert then answered with four rapid rights, getting in a couple. After that, they grappled and strained mightily against each other while bumping along the boards. The two heavyweights got free again and Kocur started to take over. He threw a few right hands, getting in a good shot to the side of the face that knocked Probert's lid loose.

Probert got Joey under control again, then threw two nice rights of his own, landing on the back of Kocur's head. Kocur wrapped Probert up and took his old friend down to the ice. The officials then broke it up.

The narrowest of edges goes to Kocur for landing slightly better-quality punches than Probert did. It was a decent fight, but not a barnburner.

Acquiring Joey Kocur was one of the best things the Detroit Red Wings did for themselves that season. True enough, at that point, Joey wasn't nearly as punishing a fighter as he was in the mid-1980s. However, he was still tough and feared, commanding a great deal of respect around the league.

The Red Wings had been roughed up a few times earlier in the season, particularly by the Chicago Blackhawks. The acquisition of Joey Kocur prevented that from happening again. Kocur's presence, that of a bonafide heavyweight, earned the Detroit snipers more room to operate, and Joey was one of the reasons the Red Wings would win the Stanley Cup that year.
 BattleshipRules
13130 fight reviews

Jun 27, 2013 09:15 ET
Joey Kocur narrow win Fun 
6
Probert and Kocur used to be brothers-in-arms. They were known as the "Bruise Brothers" when both played for the Red Wings. This may have been the best combination of NHL enforcers ever to play on one team.

The men were ready to throw down. The two men put their friendship temporarily aside in the heat of competition. The guys traded meaningful punches in the contest. Kocur was the busier of the two. Joey missed a punch and landed a decent right. He missed a punch and landed a couple of average connects.

Probie landed a solid blow and missed a punch. He landed an average connect and missed a shot. Kocur landed a solid right and Probert wrapped up his arm. Bob missed a punch and the men wrestled for a long spell.

Joey landed an effective combination of a solid right hand and uppercut. He landed a decent blow. Probert landed an average shot and a partial connect. Bob wrestled Joey to the ice and this put an end to the contest.

I rate this as a narrow win for Kocur. He landed a couple more punches in the fight. The power of the men was pretty even. Joey was busier and landed a couple more effective shots. This was a pretty good shot. Both guys were competing and trading significant blows.

Probert and Kocur were two of the all time greats. Bob was considered the heavyweight champ of the NHL at various times during the late 1980's and early 1990's. Kocur was an excellent fighter during the same span, but his prime years were probably the last couple of years with the Red Wings and his stint with the Rangers. Joey was especially dominant during those years in the early-to-mid 1990's. He rarely lost a fight in his prime. Kocur was good as any heavyweight in the NHL during that span. He dominated Tony Twist in a contest and Tony never sought a rematch.

Kocur beat Donald Brashear a couple of times, although Donald had not quite reached his prime. Joey established himself as the best power puncher in the sport (arguably of all time.) He beat Link Gaetz, Marty McSorley, Craig Berube, Ken Baumgartner, and Stu Grimson which further established himself as one of the baddest and most dangerous heavyweights in NHL history.

Kocur had a long tenure as an elite heavyweight. He was particularly good at tying up an opponent's dominant arm. It was quite a task to tie up the arm of Probert, Gaetz, and Twist, but Joey was as strong pound-for-pound as anyone in the sport. Joey minimized the punishment he took.

Probert gained more of a celebrity status for his legendary marathon bouts. However, he took his share of punishment and was a bit burnt out in his later years. Kocur rarely took a lot of punishment, other than he got tagged occasionally with a power punch that put him down. This was the case in upset losses to Bob McGill and Herb Raglan. Kocur was spared the indignity of losing embarrassing bouts to the likes of Andrei Nazarov, who left Probert a bloody mess.

Sometimes there is more wear and tear on a fighter from absorbing twenty blows in a marathon contest than getting dropped with one or two blows. For example, it can be argued that Evander Holyfield and Larry Holmes shortened more careers by battering a guy over twelve or fifteen rounds than Mike Tyson did in scoring a quick knockout. Kocur had less fights where he took punishment for an extended period of time. That was a reason why he aged like a fine wine and never really appeared worse for the wear.

Kocur and Probert were two of the all time greats. Joey got a little better of the head-to-head matchup. He was so good that he made a great fighter look a bit ordinary at times.
 SlapShot
207 fight reviews

Jul 4, 2006 17:36 ET
Bob Probert narrow win Fun 
5
As with the first 2 rounds I just never felt when these two fought that we saw the best from either. Some good punches exchanged here but until Probert lands a pair of big right hands late none of the shots really seemed to have a lot of effect on them. Probert clearly wanted to stay in close and Kocur wanted some space, and a lot of the fight was the jostling that ensued due to the different strategies. By my viewing this ended their series with a win, loss, and a draw for each - thus settling nothing between them personally, understandable to a point since they were teammates and good friends, though. Much easier to fight a hated rival than an ex-teammate.
 Oneill.the.Giant
11321 fight reviews

Jun 28, 2009 15:18 ET
Draw Fun 
6
These two legends line up beside each other at a face off and start talking. Once the puck is dropped the two of them continue talking for a second or two before dropping the gloves with one another and squaring off.

They are both beside the boards sizing each other up then Probert throws out a left jab and comes in quickly and grabs a hold of Kocur. Kocur then immediately throws three right hands at Probert landing at least one of these on the Chicago enforcer. Both are now tied up well with each other and allow they attempt a few right hands each they fall short as each has the other right hand under control.

Both then start to grapple against the boards each looking to free an arm to continue to throw punches and after a few seconds Kocur frees and lands with a right hand. They then lock out at arms length for a moment before Kocur misses with a right upper cut and Probert closes the distance on him and they tie up once again.

Probert then throws two right hands at Kocur as the continue to grapple by the boards landing one of these before Probert grabs Kocur in a head lock and they both fall to the ice with Kocur landing on top. The two lines then quickly come in and end the fight.



Average fight between these two legends with not many good punches landed by either guy. I can't see anything in this fight so I'm going to call it a draw.

Draw.
 SarcasticPillow
20684 fight reviews
151 fight logs

May 21, 2011 12:10 ET
Draw Fun 
5
The previous Chicago Blackhawks and Detroit Red Wings game was a rough one with Bob Probert primarily involved for the Blackhawks. The Red Wings didn't like the physical edge their divisional rivals owned and brought in one of their former enforcers, Joey Kocur to address the issue. Jim Cummins and Jamie Pushor drop them just over two minutes into the game and on the next shift, Probert and Kocur shed the mitts too. They square off and get in tight right away. Kocur throws five rights, landing three which dislodge Probert's helmet. Then Probert lands a right to the face as Kocur lands another right to the side of the head. Probert misses a right before landing a right as Kocur lands a right as well. Again Probert lands a right and they wrestle around afterwards. Probert lands a right to the back of the helmet and then gets Kocur's head down while continuing to wrestle. Kocur works his head back up and throws two rights, landing one which helps get Probert's helmet off. Probert's right arm gets caught up in his jersey and while trying to get it out, ducks his head down. Kocur throws two rights and land one before Probert puts his head up and throws three rights, landing two which knock off Kocur's helmet. They get wrestling again and go down to the ice, bringing the linesmen in. The last fight between these two former teammates, friends, and two of the better fighters in the NHL during their careers. Alright scrap and a draw in my book.
 EddieShore
911 fight reviews

Dec 15, 2006 22:02 ET
Joey Kocur narrow win Fun 
6
Bruise Brothers goes at it for the third and last time. This is also the best fight between them, but still not great. Probert clearly wants to stay close to Kocur, knowing very well that even he can run into one of Kocur's devastating KO punches. Kocur immediately bomb away with rights at Probert, landing a few. Probert answers up to the call and also throw rights at Kocur. They both wrestle for position, holding on to each others arms. Kocur gets his right arm free and tries a few weak punches and narrowly misses a sneaky uppercut that could have inflicted some damage had it found its target. Probert quickly throws two good hard rights to the top of the head of Kocur before they wrestle each other down. Kocur was the more active one and landed better. Probert didn't win this for sure, although finishing strongly. A narrow win for Kocur.
 re
9280 fight reviews

May 17, 2007 06:54 ET
Joey Kocur narrow win Fun 
7
Probert stays in tight to avoid Kocur jackhammer right. Kocur is able to do most of the landing for the most part in the fight. Probert finally in the end lands two good punches. Probert then puts a headlock on but slips to the ice before he could land anymore.

Kocur gets the edge as he landed a lot more than Probert. Probert did come back a bit but not enough for a draw.
Rob666
498 fight reviews
4 fight logs

Aug 15, 2008 14:06 ET
Joey Kocur narrow win Fun 
6
mullet
19897 fight reviews

Oct 8, 2009 13:12 ET
Draw Fun 
5
Two legends going at it but it was quite average fight, neither guy landed any clean punches, there was a lot of wrestling, Kocur was having a slight upper hand but Probert came back in the end. Draw.
TheDanLine
11077 fight reviews

Feb 3, 2010 11:27 ET
Bob Probert narrow win Fun 
6
Looked to me that Probert landed a few decent ones to the face of Kocur at the beginning of the fight. Edge Probert.
FrAn6
3589 fight reviews

Feb 19, 2010 17:39 ET
Joey Kocur narrow win Fun 
6
Kocur landed the best punches of this fight, especially at 0:26-0:27 seconds and at 0:33 secs. But it was an even fight. Edge Kocur
michiann
3646 fight reviews

Aug 12, 2012 00:22 ET
Joey Kocur narrow win Fun 
N/A
I remember watching this game on tv and I remember saying to myself " two powerhouses & ex-teammates, I wouldn't miss this for the world". Anyway, Kocur edges out Probert here. Total facial/head punch-count: Kocur had 5 and Probert had 3 or 4. So, narrow win for Kocur.
TieDomiFan
2391 fight reviews

Mar 10, 2014 07:46 ET
Joey Kocur narrow win Fun 
5
itsJ.Millertime
12086 fight reviews

Sep 20, 2016 10:01 ET
Joey Kocur narrow win Fun 
5
Lots of holding and wrestling but enough blows being thrown to make it a somewhat entertaining bout, both land some and it's close but Kocur landed just a bit more to get the win.
Rob07882
363 fight reviews

Feb 20, 2017 07:46 ET
Joey Kocur narrow win Fun 
6
supersonic
6736 fight reviews

Feb 20, 2017 09:32 ET
Draw Fun 
5
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lilburtis9363
Aug 30, 2007 00:49 ET
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TheDanLine
Oct 11 12:14 ET
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Fight at 34:12
HeightWeightPunchesBlood
Duration 0:15ThrownLanded   Big   
 Joey Kocur 6'0'' 4220lb 20986None
 Cam Russell 6'4'' 4200lb 20200
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 chrisY2J
1235 fight reviews

Oct 11 10:06 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
8
Detroit heavyweight Joey Kocur and Blackhawk blueliner Cam Russell scrap in front of the Chicago bench. Kocur and Russell grapple at first, and almost immediately Joey gets Cam in a really vulnerable position. He muscles Cam against the boards in front of the Blackhawk bench, then has him hanging face-first over the top of the boards.

Kocur and Russell are locked up with each other, side by side. Kocur has his right hand free and Russell's arms are completely tied up. Kocur lets fly a series of hard right-handed uppercuts, rapping his knuckles off Russell's helmet, skull, and face. I think the linesmen would have gotten in there a lot quicker than they did, if not for Enrico Ciccone.

Ciccone was sitting on the Blackhawk bench and had a front row seat to watch his teammate Russell get pummeled. Enrico reached out and grabbed at Kocur, and a linesman grabbed Ciccone to keep him out of it. The linesmen were preoccupied with Ciccone and as a result, Kocur took quite a few free pops at Russell. Cam's head snapped back with each punch.

The beating was going from "very one-sided" to "massacre" when the linesmen finally intervened. It probably wouldn't have gotten that bad for Russell if Ciccone had stayed out of it, which would have allowed the linesmen to get in there faster.

Kocur and Russell go to the penalty boxes. Russell was checking his face afterwards, and he was sporting some visible welts. Kocur's knuckles were banged up (again). This was a decisive win for Kocur, as he had Russell in a helpless position and was just beating on him relentlessly.

Kocur's two fights this night really ended the Hawks' physical domination over the Red Wings that season. Kocur made a big statement to the Hawks in this game, taking on their number one tough guy in the first fight and then ruthlessly pummeling one of their most physical defensemen in the second one.
 SlapShot
207 fight reviews

Jul 7, 2006 18:10 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
5
Scary moments for Russell in this fight, because as he and Kocur lock up they get bent over the Chicago bench and Kocur is throwing consecutive right hands at Russell as he's pinned against the glass divider where the bench and glass meet. At first a Chicago player reaches out to grab Kocur but immediately lets go and another one has a front row seat for the action but I have to agree with Bill Clement that Kocur's punches probably weren't finding the mark as clearly as what it might have appeared to the viewing audience because if they were the Chicago bench would have gotten involved to save Russell regardless of the consequences in terms of suspensions, etc. The other evidence that Kocur's punches probably weren't as damaging as they appeared was Russell skated away unscathed, and we've all seen enough of Kocur's fights to know that if they were landing Russell wouldn't have been skating around. However, it still has to be decisive because the linesmen had to save Russell from the position he ended up in.
 SarcasticPillow
20684 fight reviews
151 fight logs

Jun 14, 2009 18:58 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
6
Off a draw by the Chicago Blackhawks' bench, Joey Kocur takes a check from Cam Russell and Kocur gives Russell a push. Then the gloves are dropped and Kocur and Russell get a hold of one another. Russell throws two rights to the helmet and lands one softly. Kocur then lands a right while Enrico Ciccone, on the bench, grabs at Kocur. Ciccone lets go after losing his glove and a referee comes by to make sure Ciccone doesn't interfere again. Meanwhile, Russell gets bent over the boards and Kocur begins feeding Russell rights. Kocur throws eight and connects with them all. The linesmen stay out for quite a while before finally deciding to jump in and protect Russell just as Russell wraps his arms around Kocur in defense. The referees split Kocur and Russell apart. Decisive win Kocur. It began even but Kocur took over fast. He just hammered away on Russell, nailing him with right after right. Eventually the referees came in to protect Russell from the pounding Kocur was dishing out. Slight above average fight, not long but very one-sided.
 BattleshipRules
13130 fight reviews

Jun 27, 2013 14:05 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
6
Kocur and Russell went at it along the boards adjacent to the Black Hawks bench. Cam landed a decent right hand. Joey landed a couple of solid punches and missed a shot. A Black Hawks player tried to grab his arm, but decided against the move because of the possible consequences of getting involved in a fight from the bench area. The Chicago players looked on with great concern as Joey was pounding Russell. Kocur landed four rights with pretty good pop before the refs stepped in for a merciful stoppage.

I rate this fight as a decisive win for Kocur. Russell was in a bad position along the boards and taking an increasing amount of punishment. The stoppage was a good one.
Anthony19
2974 fight reviews

Feb 21, 2005 22:38 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
8
Kocur got Russell hanging over the bench and almost into one of the Blackhawks players lap. As Kocur had him over he held him there with his left and landed 10 of the hardest punches I have ever seen. It was sort of sick seeing Russells head jerk back on most of them.
re
9280 fight reviews

May 26, 2008 18:33 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
7
Mad beating as Kocur bent Russell up over the Detroit bench and nailed him with about ten huge right hands to a defenseless Russell.
FrAn6
3589 fight reviews

Feb 5, 2009 17:28 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
6
Untypical fight. Kocur threw Russell at the end of the Blackhawks' bench. Russell was tilted on the bench and was in a really bad position. So, Kocur, at the beginning until the end, just threw few bombs to his opponent. Decisive win cause the zebras just arrived at the right time to save Russell.
uppercut24
639 fight reviews

Mar 3, 2014 14:46 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
7
scottygiroux
808 fight reviews

Oct 23, 2014 15:05 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
6
Kocur had Russell bent over the Blackhawks bench and managed to get a few uppercuts in from the side on Russell. Russell was pretty helpless near the end and hd to be bailed out by the linesmen.
TheDanLine
11077 fight reviews

Aug 27, 2016 19:18 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
8
itsJ.Millertime
12086 fight reviews

Sep 20, 2016 10:03 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
6
All Kocur as he hammers Russell with a series of right hands till the linesmen jump in to save him.
supersonic
6736 fight reviews

Oct 10 21:28 ET
Joey Kocur decisive win Fun 
6
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blitz36
Jul 31, 2006 17:23 ET
I have 3 different angles, and the Chicago feed shows Joey lands just about every punch thrown. Also, while Russell is in the penalty box he looks fucked up, wincing and constantly squirting water on his face.Reply
SarcasticPillow
Mar 7, 2008 15:41 ET
The fight.

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chrisY2J
Dec 15, 2008 08:55 ET
Hey SlapShot.

I read your review of this fight. I just wanted to point out a couple things I disagreed with.

You mentioned that Kocur probably wasn't landing on Russell, but I have a different feed of that fight that has an almost-aerial view of it. Trust me, Kocur was DEFINITELY cranking him.

Also, Russell was definitely not "unscathed". The other feed shows him in the box. He looks like he's in some pain and he's got some welts on his face.

Russell took a beating.
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JimMcKenzie
Dec 14, 2012 12:13 ET
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TheDanLine
Oct 10 14:07 ET
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