Apr 5, 2014
Colorado - St. Louis4-0

Summary Of Events
1  10:07  Rough  Talbot-Backes
2  20:00  Rough  Landeskog-Sobotka
3  47:50  Hit  Bordeleau-Shattenkirk
4  47:59  Almost Fight  Bordeleau-Jackman
5  50:49  Cheap Shot  Mitchell-Morrow
6  54:43  Rough  MacKinnon-Backes
7  54:43  Rough  Mitchell-Jackman
8  57:07  Rough  Guenin-Berglund
9  57:52  Scrum   9 players 
10  57:52  Almost Fight  Bordeleau-Ott
11  57:52  Rough  Talbot-Pietrangelo
12  57:52  Rough  Malone-Polak

Rough at 10:07
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 Maxime Talbot 5'11'' 4185lb 40None
 David Backes 6'3'' 4225lb 40
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Apr 5 17:00 ET
they pushed and shoved each other Fun 
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DerDiggler
Apr 5 23:46 ET
Backes is a total fraud and fake tough guy.Reply
SmokesLetsGo
Apr 6 13:08 ET
He's the biggest punk in the league, he's been a total pretender since Day 1Reply


Rough at 20:00
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 Gabriel Landeskog 6'1'' 3207lb 10N/A
 Vladimir Sobotka 5'10'' 3197lb 10
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pepitofraser
142 fight reviews

Apr 5 17:23 ET
Both pushed and shoved pretty viciously as the period ended. Sobotka got 4 minutes and Landy 2. Fun 
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LukeLaC
Apr 7 08:44 ET
20:00 STL Vladimir Sobotka Cross checking
20:00 STL Vladimir Sobotka Roughing
20:00 COL Gabriel Landeskog Roughing
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Hit at 47:50
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 Patrick Bordeleau  (Aggressor) 6'6'' 7225lb 32A Lot
 Kevin Shattenkirk  (Victim) 5'11'' 7193lb 32
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pepitofraser
142 fight reviews

Apr 5 16:59 ET
High hit and a charge that cut Shattenkirk pretty badly. Dirty 
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GoonLeague
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tampa22
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DerDiggler
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Apr 5 23:49 ET
 Dirty 
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BostonBruin8
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Apr 6 09:04 ET
 Dirty 
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Apr 6 13:00 ET
 Dirty 
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Apr 7 17:36 ET
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pepitofraser
Apr 5 17:38 ET
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MuffinCakes
Apr 5 18:17 ET
No fights but 167 penalty minutes in the game.Reply
panthers305
Apr 5 18:46 ET
reaves was right there and didn't do shit. i'm really not happy with reaves. he didn't fight colton orr when the leafs played either. he let bordeleau run all over his team.Reply
panthers305
Apr 5 18:55 ET
actually not on this play. but earlier in the game, bordeleau laid someone out and he didn't do anything.Reply
peatycap
Apr 6 08:14 ET
LMAO at the commentators saying the league should look at that completely clean hit. Shattenkirk's own stick hit him in the face.Reply


Almost Fight at 47:59
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 Patrick Bordeleau 6'6'' 6225lb 20N/A
 Barret Jackman 6'0'' 6205lb 20
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pepitofraser
142 fight reviews

Apr 5 17:01 ET
After the hit, Jackman went after Bordeleau but the refs intercepted the attack. Both had a glove off and were aggressively trying to get after each other. Fun 
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joshmasis
Apr 5 17:02 ET
bordeleau would of killed jackmanReply
KarlRacki
Apr 5 17:02 ET
WTF was Jackman thinking?Reply
pepitofraser
Apr 5 17:39 ET
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SamuraiLincoln
Apr 5 21:07 ET (later updated)
Someone has to go with Bordeleau...Blues traded their best fighter in Stewart, they waived their best fighting prospect in Peluso (who worked Bordeleau earlier in the year), and Reaves is too busy spending his contact extension to bother with being a tough guy. A couple of 6'/190lb players had to stand up because the Blues had no one else...in the rich tradition of Blues fighting this was a sad, sad day.Reply
shalom
Apr 6 09:25 ET
he broke his hand earlier this year I think he just doesn't wanna re injure it that's why hes only fought clune and thornburnReply
LukeLaC
Apr 7 08:45 ET
47:59 STL Barret Jackman Unsportsmanlike conduct
47:59 COL Patrick Bordeleau Unsportsmanlike conduct
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Cheap Shot at 50:49
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 John Mitchell  (Victim) 6'2'' 3197lb 8N/A
 Brenden Morrow  (Aggressor) 5'11'' 3205lb 8
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pepitofraser
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Apr 5 17:04 ET
Morrow crosschecked Mitchell in the jaw/neck area and got a 5 and a game. Dirty 
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MuffinCakes
Apr 5 21:37 ET
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LukeLaC
Apr 7 08:45 ET
50:49 STL Brenden Morrow Cross checking (maj)
50:49 STL Brenden Morrow Game misconduct
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Rough at 54:43
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 Nathan MacKinnon 5'11'' 4179lb 46N/A
 David Backes 6'3'' 4225lb 46
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pepitofraser
142 fight reviews

Apr 5 17:07 ET
Mackinnon dumped Backes and Backes went after him. He dropped his gloves while Mackinnon held on but they just fell down right away. Fun 
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GoonLeague
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Apr 5 18:34 ET
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pepitofraser
Apr 5 17:37 ET
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GoonLeague
Apr 5 18:37 ET
Backes is such a spotpicker, goes after guys like Hedman and Mackinnon but won't fight real fighters.Reply
Psicosis
Apr 5 20:58 ET
Quote from message by GoonLeague
Backes is such a spotpicker, goes after guys like Hedman and Mackinnon but won't fight real fighters.
And he fought toews, what a tough guy.
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SmokesLetsGo
Apr 6 13:02 ET
Another shining example of what a gutless punk David Backes is. He is a fucking joke.Reply
AQuevillon
Apr 6 21:30 ET
Not usually proponent of this but MacKinnon totally deserves this. Definition of a little brat and everything you could possibly hate in a hockey player. If you put me across the ice from him I'd put a fist in his yappy mouth too.Reply
LukeLaC
Apr 7 08:46 ET
54:43 STL David Backes Roughing
54:43 STL David Backes Misconduct (10 min)
54:43 STL Barret Jackman Misconduct (10 min)
54:43 STL Barret Jackman Roughing
54:43 COL Nathan MacKinnon Roughing
54:43 STL David Backes Cross checking
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Rough at 54:43
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 John Mitchell 6'2'' 2197lb 8N/A
 Barret Jackman 6'0'' 2205lb 8
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Samuelsson
Apr 6 13:08 ET
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Rough at 57:07
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 Nate Guenin 6'2'' 2210lb 8N/A
 Patrik Berglund 6'4'' 2218lb 8
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Samuelsson
5038 fight reviews

Apr 6 13:15 ET
This occurs in front of the Avalanche's goal. Guenin and Berglund collided and both fall down with Guenin on top. Then Nate a few times pushed Patrik from top until refs stepped in. Fun 
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Samuelsson
Apr 6 13:15 ET
No penalty call.Reply


Scrum at 57:52
Colorado PlayersSt. Louis Players
Duration N/A  Patrick Bordeleau  Nate Guenin  Jan Hejda  Brad Malone  Maxime Talbot     Maxim Lapierre  Steve Ott  Alex Pietrangelo  Roman Polak   
# Players Involved: 9
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pepitofraser
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Apr 5 17:13 ET
Ott and Lapierre went after Bordeleau while everyone else paired up and dropped their gloves. Despite all this, nobody really fought, as Bordeleau was kept back by the refs and everyone who had paired up just wrestled and never threw punches. Fun 
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GoonLeague
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Apr 5 18:38 ET
 Fun 
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BostonBruin8
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Apr 6 09:08 ET
 Fun 
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pepitofraser
Apr 5 17:20 ET
More players were involved for Colorado but I don't recall who else and have to wait for the penalties to be sorted out to add the rest.Reply
pepitofraser
Apr 5 17:27 ET (later updated)
Malone, Guenin and Hejda were also involved.Reply
pepitofraser
Apr 5 17:27 ET
Everyone got misconducts.Reply
terminator222
Apr 5 17:59 ET
Not 1 major for fighting in this game and there are over 170 pims. What a joke.Reply
MuffinCakes
Apr 5 18:15 ET
Any video? I want to see this.Reply
pepitofraser
Apr 5 18:19 ET
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MuffinCakes
Apr 5 18:23 ET
Thanks!Reply
LukeLaC
Apr 6 05:16 ET
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LukeLaC
Apr 7 08:48 ET
57:52 COL Nate Guenin Misconduct (10 min)
57:52 COL Brad Malone Misconduct (10 min)
57:52 COL Maxime Talbot Misconduct (10 min)
57:52 COL Jan Hejda Misconduct (10 min)
57:52 COL Patrick Bordeleau Misconduct (10 min)
57:52 STL Roman Polak Misconduct (10 min)
57:52 STL Steve Ott Misconduct (10 min)
57:52 STL Alex Pietrangelo Misconduct (10 min)
57:52 STL Maxim Lapierre Cross checking
57:52 STL Maxim Lapierre Slashing
57:52 STL Maxim Lapierre Misconduct (10 min)
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Almost Fight at 57:52
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 Patrick Bordeleau 6'6'' 6225lb 33N/A
 Steve Ott 6'0'' 6192lb 33
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pepitofraser
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Apr 5 17:15 ET
They both dropped their gloves and tried to fight but the refs kept them separated. Fun 
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joshmasis
Apr 5 17:22 ET
really? steve the otter dropped his gloves with patrick bordeleau? find that hard to believeReply
KarlRacki
Apr 5 17:23 ET
Was St Louis drinking last night? Jackman and Ott both dropping their gloves with a Super HW like Bordy who would kill them both.Reply
pepitofraser
Apr 5 17:25 ET
I guess it was all adrenaline at that point cause Bords really pissed off the whole team. Shattenkirk would've even dropped them with Bords if he had the chance it looked like.Reply
KarlRacki
Apr 5 17:31 ET
There is a difference between acting tough when it's 2 on 1 in a scrum or when an official is between you to squaring off with a guy. Bordy is a top 2-3 fighter in the league and a monster. Ott, Jackman, Lappiere, Shakenkirk would not only get destroyed probably hurt bad against him.Reply
pepitofraser
Apr 5 17:33 ET
Of course they would, Bords is a monster. I was just explaining why they all of a sudden had the balls to go after him, it was sheer anger more than anything which negated the fear in that situation.Reply
KarlRacki
Apr 5 17:38 ET
Quote from message by pepitofraser
Of course they would, Bords is a monster. I was just explaining why they all of a sudden had the balls to go after him, it was sheer anger more than anything which negated the fear in that situation.
They had balls cause they went after him 3 on 1. Ott had balls cause there was a linesmen between him and Bordy.
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pepitofraser
Apr 5 17:56 ET
Even then, they must know that any time the refs may let them go or Bords may break free. It doesn't really saturate the ballsyness to me just because the refs are in the way.Reply
KarlRacki
Apr 5 17:58 ET
Quote from message by pepitofraser
Even then, they must know that any time the refs may let them go or Bords may break free. It doesn't really saturate the ballsyness to me just because the refs are in the way.
It does cause anyone with a brain that has watched Ott and Lapierre play knows they have no balls. Both are cowards.
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pepitofraser
Apr 5 18:04 ET
Quote from message by KarlRacki
It does cause anyone with a brain that has watched Ott and Lapierre play knows they have no balls. Both are cowards.
Lapierre, yes. Ott, a lot of the time, but not in this situation.
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KarlRacki
Apr 5 18:11 ET
Please she me where Ott showed Balls? The gutless punk has ran away from more heavyweights then anyone in the NHL.Reply
pepitofraser
Apr 5 18:17 ET
He's a middleweight who has fought a lot of good middleweights.Reply
pepitofraser
Apr 5 18:17 ET
And he showed balls here when he dropped them with Bordeleau.Reply
pepitofraser
Apr 5 18:19 ET
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KarlRacki
Apr 5 18:20 ET
Quote from message by pepitofraser
He's a middleweight who has fought a lot of good middleweights.
He is also a guy who is a chicken shit that who plays on the edge, likes to use his stick, throw questionable hits and won't even look at a HW.

He shit himself when Jody Shelley went after him. or Cairns and McAllister, or even Matt Greene after his hit on Hemskey.
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DatCraftyGekko
Apr 5 18:37 ET
Bord's is not a top 2-3 fighter this season. His lack of fights/ass kicking from Gazdic proved that he's just a step above Frazer McLaren.

But yes, he would have shat all over Ott.
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GoonLeague
Apr 5 18:40 ET
Agreed, I wouldn't call him a super heavy because he rarely fights and isn't really dominating in fights either.Reply
panthers305
Apr 5 18:48 ET
well reaves was terrified of bordeleau. he didn't want any part of him all night. i'm very disappointed because reaves is my favorite fighter.Reply
KarlRacki
Apr 5 18:49 ET
The guy had a great fight with the champ. His lack if fights? Notice every HW is having a lack if fights.

I rank them

1) Gratts
2) Gazdic
3) Bordy.
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DatCraftyGekko
Apr 5 19:16 ET
Grats and Gazdic have had a decent amount of fights, but yes HWs across the board are down. More light-heavies and middleweights are scrapping this year.

But Bordy isn't top three for me. Still raw and unproven, he'll emerge later as a beast, but right now I think the tops are:

1. McGrattan
2. Gazdic
3. Rosehill
4. Boulton
5. Carkner/Bordeleau

I'm sure I'll catch flak for the last two. But both men have beaten a legit heavy (Carkner on Rosehill, Boulton KO'd Parros) and are posting winning records. I'm more impressed with Boulton's fight card, despite a weak loss to Barch.
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KarlRacki
Apr 5 19:27 ET
Bordy though went to toe with champ. Boulton has more fights but has Gleason, Stuart, McCormick on his card.

1) Gratts
2) Gazdic
3) Bordy
4) Lucic
5) Peluso
6) Rosehill
7) Boulton
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KarlRacki
Apr 5 19:33 ET (later updated)
Quote from message by DatCraftyGekko
Grats and Gazdic have had a decent amount of fights, but yes HWs across the board are down. More light-heavies and middleweights are scrapping this year.

But Bordy isn't top three for me. Still raw and unproven, he'll emerge later as a beast, but right now I think the tops are:

1. McGrattan
2. Gazdic
3. Rosehill
4. Boulton
5. Carkner/Bordeleau

I'm sure I'll catch flak for the last two. But both men have beaten a legit heavy (Carkner on Rosehill, Boulton KO'd Parros) and are posting winning records. I'm more impressed with Boulton's fight card, despite a weak loss to Barch.
You are more impressed with Boulton's card?

Boulton has Mark Stuart, Cody McCormick, Tim Gleason on his card, how is that impressive compared to having the top 2 guys in the league on Bordy's?

Gratts rolls people and the unproven Bordy went toe to toe with him, you are right tho Bordy is unproven.

Carkner top 5 shows you are a Islander homer. Carkner has done nothing this year. Shit fights everywhere. Wait he beat some non-fighter on Florida.
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DatCraftyGekko
Apr 5 19:59 ET
I'm a Blues fan but good try.

Boulton has a KO over Parros and went toe to toe with Rosehill twice, not to mention a TKO over Gleason. And when did Cody McCormick, who is 44-10, come off as a slouch? Boulton has had a hell of a year, give him that at least.

And Carkner, while boring, earned a decisive win over Rosehill and his only loss was a narrow one to Ryan Clowe, who isn't a bad fighter.

And going toe to toe with the champ doesn't mean shit if you cannot put in consistent results. Sure it was an impressive fight, but Bordeleau lost to Anthony Peluso. Peluso was bulled over by McGrattan. Does this help or hurt Bordy's draw? What about his draw with Shawn Thornton, who most people on this site believes is done?

And honestly, I would put Peluso in that 4 or 5 slot over Carkner and Boulton. He's had a decent year as well.
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KarlRacki
Apr 5 20:24 ET
So you are blasting guy for being bulled by the champ, but giving guy props for beating Tim Gleason. Got it.

Let me do this for you

Boulton card:

Stuart
Gleason
McCormick

Bordy Card:

McGrattan
Gazdic

What's more impressive?

Carkner top 5 is a joke. Shit fights with Nolan, Scott, McLaren. Loses to Clowe.

I put Clowe above him.
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DatCraftyGekko
Apr 5 20:38 ET
You forgot Orr and Parros on Boulton's card. The latter of which he knocked out. And Rosehill, whom he went toe to toe with twice.

You know, three heavyweights. Right? 2-0-2 against those three heavies. Pretty impressive.

And now Bordeleau, who hasn't beaten a legit heavy, unless you count Tom Sestito, in the NHL yet. But he drew in a slugfest with McGrattan, but also drew with Shawn Thornton, lost to Peluso, and got the utter dogshit kicked out of him by Gazdic--unless I, along with others who voted TKO or decisive win for Gazdic, are completely high.

So let's revise your list to better accomodate the argument.

Boulton:

KO win Parros
Win against Orr ( a shit win, but a win)
Two T2T draws against Rosehill

Overall: 2-0-2 against heavyweights

Bordeleau:

Draw against Brian McGrattan, his strongest case in a fight he didn't win
Decisive loss against Gazdic, who dropped Bordeleau and lost to McGrattan
Loss to Anthony Peluso, who lost to McGrattan.
Draw with Shawn Thornton
Win over Tom Sestito

1-2-2 against heavyweights, with the lone victory coming against a guy who is 5-9-5 on the year.

Advantage Boulton. Hands down, he's having a better season in the fisticuffs than Bordy this year.

And I'm willing to remove Carkner in exchange for Peluso. I like your list in terms of Peluso and Lucic, although I'm still on the fence about Lucic. He's had a hell of a card, hasn't lost but hasn't won.
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KarlRacki
Apr 5 20:41 ET
You're not very smart, huh?

You are blasting Bordy cause he got dropped by the #2 toughest guy in the league and drew a monster that is league champ.

But continue to defend a guy who has 4 of his 8 fights against non fighters or ME/LHW fighters in Boulton and a guy in Carkner who average fun rating is about 4 and has 5 shit fight draws this year.

Boulton had a nice win over Rosehill, but what else did he do that would equal a draw against McGrattan, a guy who would kill everyone Boulton or Carkner fought.
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KarlRacki
Apr 5 20:45 ET (later updated)
Bottom line, there is nobody from this year on Boulton or Carkner's card that equals McGrattan or Gazdic.

Rosehill is the one one, maybe Clowe, but that is stretching it.

Gleason
Stewart
Nolan
Some Euro from Florida
Barch
Stuart
McCormick
Hendricks

How do you think McGrattan, Gazdic, Bordy, Peluso would do against those guys?

Bordy has only 5 fights, but each fight was against a true HW who is probably a op 10 rank, even estito cause of his fight numbers an who he has fought.
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DatCraftyGekko
Apr 5 20:59 ET
Please do not insult my intelligence, young man.

Boulton had 4 heavyweight fights. He won 2 of them and drew 2. He knocked out one of them.

And Bordeleau's draw with McGrattan is a draw. He got his ass kicked by Gazdic. He lost to Peluso. He beat Sestito. He drew with Thornton.

Now, please follow along.

Bordeleau's draw with McGrattan is impressive, and a sign of his fighting talent. But losses to Gazdic--who loss to McGrattan, but shat on Bordy--and Peluso--again, lost McGrattan--makes Bordeleau's draw look weak.

Imagine a top 25 NCAA basketball team beating a top 5, then turning around an losing to a weak opponent. Does that win still mean something? Everyone gets lucky sometimes. But it surely tarnishes the winning team's reputation.

Case in point, Bordy had a great fight. One. Great. Fight.

Boulton had 4. And those middle and light-heavies he beat. If you need a hand in establishing a valid argument, then bring up his loss to Barch.

And I'm willing to agree with you on dropping Carkner from the top 5, why can't you agree with me that Boulton had had a better year?
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DatCraftyGekko
Apr 5 21:03 ET
Correction, Boulton had 3 great fights. The Orr fight was a stinker.Reply
KarlRacki
Apr 5 21:05 ET
Quote from message by DatCraftyGekko
Please do not insult my intelligence, young man.

Boulton had 4 heavyweight fights. He won 2 of them and drew 2. He knocked out one of them.

And Bordeleau's draw with McGrattan is a draw. He got his ass kicked by Gazdic. He lost to Peluso. He beat Sestito. He drew with Thornton.

Now, please follow along.

Bordeleau's draw with McGrattan is impressive, and a sign of his fighting talent. But losses to Gazdic--who loss to McGrattan, but shat on Bordy--and Peluso--again, lost McGrattan--makes Bordeleau's draw look weak.

Imagine a top 25 NCAA basketball team beating a top 5, then turning around an losing to a weak opponent. Does that win still mean something? Everyone gets lucky sometimes. But it surely tarnishes the winning team's reputation.

Case in point, Bordy had a great fight. One. Great. Fight.

Boulton had 4. And those middle and light-heavies he beat. If you need a hand in establishing a valid argument, then bring up his loss to Barch.

And I'm willing to agree with you on dropping Carkner from the top 5, why can't you agree with me that Boulton had had a better year?
You need to follow along.. You don't understand. Boulton has 4 fights against HW, outside his fight with Roseheill and Parros nothing he did was impressive. There is nothing impressive in dropping Tim Fucking Gleason. There is nothing impressive fighting McCormick and Stuart. His big win was Parros.

Bordy went toe to toe, punch for punch with the guy who he is most feared today, I don't know how you can't understand that is pretty impressive. He did get dropped by Gazdic, but considering Gaz is probably #2 and caught Bordy no real downfall there.

I don't know how you think a guy who has 8 fights, 4 of which is against Non HW or Non Fighters and best win was against a guy who is ready to retire is more impressive then Bordy and his card.
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KarlRacki
Apr 5 21:11 ET
and out of those 3 nobody he fought is even in the same league as McGrattan and its not even close. Its laughable you think so.

Boulton Card:

Orr (Downfall of his career)
Rosehill (Nice fight)
Rosehill (Nice fight)
Parros (Best win vs a guy who is ready to retire)
Stuart (Non-fighter)
McCormick (LHW)
Gleason (Non-Fighter)

Bordy Card:

Parros (Same as Boulton)
Sestito (HW, Most improved fighter)
Peluso (Up and Coming HW)
McGrattan (Tow to Toe for 2nd straight year with the Champ)
Gazdic (LOST to #2 guy)

So Boulton's card is better?
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DatCraftyGekko
Apr 5 21:26 ET
Yes Boulton's card is better because Boulton won. He consistently beat the middies and light heavies, so he is not taxed here.

But if we're going by this logic then we can point to the fact that Bordeleau's most impressive win since being in the NHL is wins against Jared Boll, Paul Bissonnette, and Brad Staubitz. Real tough guys, huh?

You're also explaining to me that Bordy's best win was a draw, that means he should have beaten the guys who lost to McGrattan. In which he beat Sestito--and how the hell can anyone call 5-9-5 most improved?

Please don't underestimate my admiration for Bordeleau, but he had an inconsistent and horrid year fighting. Boulton has been more consistent.

Parros had never been KO'd is his professional career before, that is impressive. Orr is having a down year, but is not in the twilight of his career. I think it's more embarrassing for Bordeleau to get outpunched and draw with Thornton than Boulton's Orr win.

Not to mention Boulton is a light heavy, in my mind, fighting up in class. Smaller dude taking on bigger guys? More impressive. The fact Bordeleau is a behemoth and has not been as successful as Boulton against fighters in his class, only makes my argument stronger. Boulton has had a more impressive year than Bordeleau.
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DatCraftyGekko
Apr 5 21:36 ET
Also Orr TKO'd your most improved fight, I say that adds something to Boulton's 2013-2014 resume.Reply
KarlRacki
Apr 5 21:40 ET
And Sestito had a better showing against McCormick then your #3 guy Boulton.

Point

Sestito has 20 fights this year including 3 good showings vs McGrattan.
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DatCraftyGekko
Apr 5 21:47 ET
Dammit, man! We're not getting anywhere in this argument. So let us agree to disagree.

The Avalanche will play the Oilers on the 8th, if Bordeleau kicks Gazdic's ass I personally will reverse my stance on this argument and purchase you a case of any beer of your choosing.
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KarlRacki
Apr 5 22:07 ET
Quote from message by DatCraftyGekko
Dammit, man! We're not getting anywhere in this argument. So let us agree to disagree.

The Avalanche will play the Oilers on the 8th, if Bordeleau kicks Gazdic's ass I personally will reverse my stance on this argument and purchase you a case of any beer of your choosing.
Sounds Good knuckleHead LOL

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TieDomiFan
Apr 5 22:28 ET
Quote from message by DatCraftyGekko
Dammit, man! We're not getting anywhere in this argument. So let us agree to disagree.

The Avalanche will play the Oilers on the 8th, if Bordeleau kicks Gazdic's ass I personally will reverse my stance on this argument and purchase you a case of any beer of your choosing.
Hey, I gotta agree with you man ... My list is pretty similar to yours ... I´m sure Bordy is better fighter and would probably win fight against Boulton, but Boulton was much more impressive than Bordeleau this season ... Bordeleau drew with Gratts, beat one of the worst ( eventhough he´s getting better ) HW´s in Sestito, got destroyed by Gazdic, lost against Peluso and beat Parros ... His fight card is better than Boulton´s but for his size he wasn´t impressive at all and had only 6 fights in like 80 games ? that´s a joke, he wasn´t active enough to be TOP 5 this season ! and before somebody is gonna say that Boulton have only 8 fights, I gotta say yeah only 8 fights but in 23 games, that´s what enforcer should do !

Overall Bordeleau is better fighter than Boulton, but wasn´t as impressive as he should be plus was too lazy to fight, on the other hand Boulton Ko´ed Parros, destroyed Gleason, beat Orr and made some nice slugfests with Rosehill, who´s TOP 5 for sure, so I´d ranked Boulton over Bordeleau 100 % in this season, he was more powerful, had more entertaining fights and was more active.
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mullet
Apr 6 05:36 ET
Quote from message by DatCraftyGekko
Grats and Gazdic have had a decent amount of fights, but yes HWs across the board are down. More light-heavies and middleweights are scrapping this year.

But Bordy isn't top three for me. Still raw and unproven, he'll emerge later as a beast, but right now I think the tops are:

1. McGrattan
2. Gazdic
3. Rosehill
4. Boulton
5. Carkner/Bordeleau

I'm sure I'll catch flak for the last two. But both men have beaten a legit heavy (Carkner on Rosehill, Boulton KO'd Parros) and are posting winning records. I'm more impressed with Boulton's fight card, despite a weak loss to Barch.
That's a good list. I have the exact same Top 4 at the moment, not sure who I would put into #5, Peluso, Carkner or Bordeleau.
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TieDomiFan
Apr 6 06:28 ET
Quote from message by mullet
That's a good list. I have the exact same Top 4 at the moment, not sure who I would put into #5, Peluso, Carkner or Bordeleau.
I´d go with Peluso at the moment and don´t forget about M.Kassian, he´s maybe boring, but his record isn´t bad ...
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mullet
Apr 6 07:25 ET
I agree, Kassian is also somewhere around 6-10 in the Top 10.Reply
KarlRacki
Apr 6 11:54 ET
Quote from message by TieDomiFan
I´d go with Peluso at the moment and don´t forget about M.Kassian, he´s maybe boring, but his record isn´t bad ...
Give me guys that actually throw punches like Bordy and Lucic in the top 5 over bor-a-thon fighters like Kassian and Carkner anyday.

Can't believe Lucic isn't in anyones top5, the guy had maybe the best fight of the year with Wrecker, a top 5 AHL Fighter and probably would be top 5 if he was in the NHL and Gadic, a guy who is everyone's number 2.
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TieDomiFan
Apr 6 16:23 ET
Quote from message by KarlRacki
Give me guys that actually throw punches like Bordy and Lucic in the top 5 over bor-a-thon fighters like Kassian and Carkner anyday.

Can't believe Lucic isn't in anyones top5, the guy had maybe the best fight of the year with Wrecker, a top 5 AHL Fighter and probably would be top 5 if he was in the NHL and Gadic, a guy who is everyone's number 2.
I´m not saying that Lucic or Bordy are worse than Boulton, Carkner, Kassian etc. I think they´re better fighters, but Bordy just had a bad season, that´s why he isn´t in my TOP 5 ...

And I got Lucic at 7 place now ... He´s slightly behind Kassian and Peluso ... If he adds one more good fight, he will be in my TOP 5 for this season.
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