Feb 4, 2006
Ottawa - Buffalo1-2 SO

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1  3:29  Hit  Heatley-Gaustad
2  5:59  Fight  McGrattan-Peters
3  32:11  Rough  Neil-Afinogenov
4  40:00  Rough  Hasek-Gaustad

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Apr 28, 2009 11:03 ET
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 VipersLad
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Mar 17, 2013 18:55 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
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Brian McGrattan vs. Andrew Peters (Rd IV) / Feb 4, 2006

McGrattan and Peters met up behind the play and decided now was the time to go. They shed the mitts and set themselves up for their third go around this season, this being McGrattan's rookie year. McGrattan has already established himself at this point as a legit heavyweight contender and has a rivalry with Peters that's seen them fight four times previous to this tilt.

They squared off, and both showed contrasting styles as McGrattan stood hands down and Peters with a tight stance. McGrattan grabbed Peters, and both guys set up but neither were very quick out the traps. McGrattan worked the jab a bit on Peters, which had Peters turning his head away. McGrattan got in around five left handed jersey jabs on Peters before opening up with a straight right that was off the mark.

Peters fired back but was also off the mark. McGrattan threw a second right that landed to the back of Peters' helmet, and Peters found himself on the back foot early in this one as McGrattan followed up with another right that landed. McGrattan got in two quick jabs before Peters responded with a wild right that missed. McGrattan countered Peters' miss and connected on another right and Peters lost his lid.

Peters tried to respond once more with a wild right hand but again fell off the mark, and McGrattan was again able to counter with a right that landed firmly to the side of Peters' head. McGrattan followed up, and was clearly controlling the fight at this stage with Peters on the defensive. Peters then landed a good jab on McGrattan, which he was able to follow up on but looked to hit McGrattan's left shoulder pad.

McGrattan then missed with a right, and Peters was able to land with a right to the back of McGrattan's helmet. McGrattan then missed with another right, and seemed to be having trouble with finding his range as the fight progressed. Peters tossed another right at McGrattan that may have landed just behind the ear of McGrattan. Both guys paused for a brief moment, before opening up with simultaneous rights.

McGrattan landed cleanly with a straight right, but Peters nailed McGrattan with a even better shot which looked to hurt the Senators' tough guy. Peters followed up with another right to the face of McGrattan, and McGrattan tossed another right at Peters that looked to narrowly miss. McGrattan then pulled away and covered his face using his right hand, Peters then noticed McGrattan was hurt and called the officials in.

McGrattan was escorted away by one of the officials and clearly had problems as he checked his face, it looked to be the orbital bone that was injured. This is a decisive win for Peters, despite Peters calling the officials in himself, it was clear McGrattan was hurt and not able to continue. Regardless of who called the officials in McGrattan was in a hopeless situation and needed the officials to intervene.

Not a bad fight, Peters gets the decisive win for the reasons stated above, but credit to McGrattan for trying to fight on after getting hurt.

Decisive win Peters.
 BattleshipRules
12540 fight reviews

Jul 22, 2015 17:32 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
8
The 2005-06 season was of the best campaigns for Peters. He had a four bout series with the dangerous McGrattan. Overall, he went 2-1-1. This fight was his most impressive win. Andrew was a good heavyweight who packed a wallop. Brian tried to trade tit-for-tat with power punches. He paid the price in the end.

McGrattan landed a partial connect and missed a shot. He landed two decent left jabs. He missed a few rights. He landed a partial connect and missed a shot. Peters landed a solid shot and missed two punches. Brian landed two solid blows and missed a shot. He landed an average right and missed two blows. Andrew missed a shot and landed a solid left jab.

Peters came on strong late in the contest. He rolled with some of McGrattan's early punches and conserved some energy in the process. Brian wanted to trade openly with him and Peters was good in a no-nonsense shootout. McGrattan wasn't very elusive and didn't present any odd angles to hinder the incoming fire.

Andrew landed an average punch and a solid blow. He landed an average right and a good shot that landed flush. He landed a solid blow. McGrattan missed a shot and ducked his head down. Peters gestured to the officials like "Hey, it looks like Brian has had enough." The refs were convinced that he was right and they stopped the fight. Andrew raised his hands in victory as he took his seat in the penalty box.

I rate this as a decisive win for Peters. McGrattan landed with effectiveness, but Andrew came on with a strong rally. His blows did more damage and he reduced Brian to ducking out of the way. It appeared that McGrattan had enough and was rocked from the effects of the power shots.

Peters was a formidable fighter who was a big hitter. He was inconsistent and suffered some embarrassing losses. He had issues with balance at times. He wasn't a versatile strategist. However, he generated a lot of power with his punches. McGrattan's game plan was made to order for him. Andrew was able to step forward and completely follow through with power shots. He didn't have to chase an elusive foe and leave an opening for a power shot.

McGrattan was a promising heavyweight with a load of potential. He would go on to become an undisputed champ. He would add more subtleties to his game. He had some setbacks and ugly losses early in his career. He made a mistake by presenting Peters a clear target. Mitch Fritz proved that you could get Andrew awkwardly twisting and in range to land a big shot. Brian lacked the stratagem to set traps for Peters at this stage in his career.

Peters was an interesting character. He was probably a top ten NHL heavyweight in the 2005-06 season. His only other loss was to the great Derek Boogaard. Andrew had top physical tools. He was huge and powerful. He invited controversy when it was revealed that he used PED's. Many other fighters have undoubtedly used "Flintstone Vitamins" to bulk up, but there is a price to pay when the public finds out. This revelation hurt Andrew's reputation.

Still, Peters was one of the better heavyweights of his era. He was a banger who could hurt a guy foolish enough to set up shop in his wheelhouse and trade freely with him. McGrattan found this out the hard way. Andrew put the hurt on him in this one and won the season series in impressive fashion. He gave McGrattan trouble like few other fighters have over the years.
 EC
3941 fight reviews
1 fight log

Apr 5 16:22 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
7
Round 3 between rival heavyweights Andrew Peters and Brian McGrattan. The last time these two men fought was November 2nd. It is now 3 months later on February 4th and they renew hostilities. Peters has only fought 4 times since then as his playing time has been limited. McGrattan on the other hand, has been on a tear as he has taken on all comers and scored some major victories. With the series between these two tied up at 1-1, this fight would determine who took the lead in the rivalry.

The two grab each other and grapple. McGrattan prods away at Peters with a few jersey jabs from his left hand. McGrattan lands two rights as Peters misses with a right. McGrattan lands a right and tosses another jab. Peters lands an overhand right. McGrattan lands a right hand and Peters' helmet goes flying off. Peters misses with a right and takes a punch from McGrattan. McGrattan follows that up with another right hand that connects. Up to this point in the fight, McGrattan has the lead. However Peters steps up his offensive attack and begins to rally.

Peters catches McGrattan with a left jersey jab that surprises him. He lands a right over the top as McGrattan misses with a right. Peters follows that up with a hard blow that connect. Both men miss with a right. The two grapple and McGrattan tosses a jab. Peters who has his head ducked down and his right cocked, suddenly lifts his head up. McGrattan turns away as he is expecting to get hit. However Peters was only feigning.

The Sabres' tough guy suddenly lands a bomb right to McGrattan's face, catching him near the eye. McGrattan is stung by the blow and hurt. He bends over and Peters lands another right hand. Despite the injury, McGrattan tries to fight back as he throws a right over the top that lands. Peters answers with a right that connects. McGrattan bends over and is clearly hurting. Peters realizes McGrattan is done and he points to him, telling the officials to come in. The linesmen move in right away. Peters raises his arms to celebrate his big win and McGrattan skates off holding his face.

This was a big win for Peters. McGrattan built up a solid lead in the fight. However he underestimated Peters and paid for it. Peters could be a bit lazy or uninterested in fighting (especially later in his career). However when he was fired up, he could be dangerous and he packed a solid punch as well. If Peters could connect with a big right, it would usually turn the fight in his favor (another example besides this fight is his fight with Jody Shelley in 2010). Peters came away with the decisive victory here. He put some hurt on McGrattan who was unable to continue and McGrattan had to be rescued by the officials. Great job by Peters as he scored the biggest win in their entire rivalry right here. However this was also the last time he would beat McGrattan in a fight. The rest of their scraps (aside from the last one) would all be draws.
 re
9287 fight reviews

May 5, 2007 09:18 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
8
These two square off behind the play. Round three on the year. They come in and lock up. McGrattan starts with jersey jabs as both keep their arms cocked. McGrattan then threw the first right that missed and was quickly countered by a missing right by Peters. McGrattan missed another one in reply to Peters first punch. McGrattan then landed one to the back of Peters head. Peters came back missing a big right that McGrattan countered landing a big right of his own. Peters again missed a right that was countered again with a landing right by McGrattan. McGrattan then pushed forward with the jab and landed a glancing right. They then exchanged three each all punches missing by both. They both then came out with a right but Peters beat McGrattan to it and landed his squarely on the nose of McGrattan. McGrattan ducked away and Peters threw one and McGrattan threw one back before ducking down holding his face in pain. Peters saw that McGrattan was hurt and stop punching as the linesmen came in and lead McGrattan off the ice. It turned out that Peters cracked up some bones in McGrattan's face. It was clear that McGrattan would not be able to continue after that punch therefor it is a clear decisive win.
 SarcasticPillow
19441 fight reviews
135 fight logs

Aug 19, 2010 10:18 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
7
Another scrap between Andrew Peters and Brian McGrattan, their third of the year after Peters took the first and McGrattan came out the better in the second. They take a while to square off and then get a hold with the left. They stand back with McGrattan jersey jabbing with the left before missing an overhand right short. Peters responds with a missing right and McGrattan throws two rights back at Peters, the first goes wide while the second just connects. Peters then misses a big overhand right and has his helmet fall off as McGrattan misses another right short. Peters misses an over the top right which doesn't reach McGrattan who immediately replies with a landing right. They both jersey jab a little as McGrattan misses a right. Then Peters misses a right and an over the top right from McGrattan misses after. Peters replies with a landing right and McGrattan then misses a right. Peters then misses a right short and McGrattan jersey jabs a bit. Peters then fakes a right before connecting with a strong right just as McGrattan lands a right of his own. Peters lands another right and McGrattan responds with a missing right. Another right from Peters lands and McGrattan ducks while getting in close. Peters stops fighting, realizing McGrattan's hurt and directs the linesmen to get involved. Good class by Peters there who then raises his arms to the hometown crowd while going off. Decisive win for Peters in this one, he caught McGrattan with a bomb and McGrattan was hurt. McGrattan tried to continue but was struggling, Peters took note and called in the linesmen. Good fight.
 WanderingEye
1758 fight reviews
4 fight logs

Feb 4, 2006 17:21 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
7
McGrattan had the edge, landing some jersey jabs and a few rights while Peters was coming up short, but Peters then landed a bomb to the face and McGrattan hunched down, appearing to be hurt and not wanting to fight anymore. Peters calls the refs in.

May meet a little resistance here, but I'm changing my decision to decisive for Peters, McGrattan was hurt and clearly wanted out of the fight, Peters could have teed off on him but calls the officials over instead.
 hb11
3930 fight reviews

Feb 5, 2006 01:48 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
7
McGrattan fought his usual fight with the left jersey jabs and the right crosses going. He had been steering clear of most of Peters punches but he got hit squarely by a solid right causing him to stop throwing. Peters did the right thing pointing out that the linesmen needed to stop it. Good showing by Peters. His first few punches were grazing McGrattan but he landed a solid left jab before letting loose with the finishing blow.
 swhite
249 fight reviews

Apr 3, 2006 15:03 ET
Andrew Peters clear win Fun 
7
Brian McGrattan vs Andrew Peters

This one starts just inside the Buffalo blueline. These guys have a little chat and then drop the gloves. They have a good square off and then McGrattan comes in and grabs on with his left. McGrattan starts things off by throwing about five left jersey jabs. Peters then throws a right that comes up short followed by a right from McGrattan that comes up short. McGrattan throws a right to the side of the head followed by a left to the side of the head. Both looked to catch the helmet. Peters then throws a right that lands. McGrattan tries to respond with a right but misses as Peter's moves his head out of the way. He loses his helmet as he does this. Peters then comes in with an overhand right that misses. McGrattan quickly answers with a right that comes up just short. McGrattan gets in another left jersey jab followed by a right to the back of the head. Peters then gets in a good left jersey jab followed by a right that misses. McGrattan then tries a right but misses as Peters ducks. Peters tries to get in a right but it comes up just short. Peters throws another right that comes up short. McGrattan gets in another left jersey jab but that is quickly answered as Peters lands a big right. Peters follows that up with another right that just comes up short. McGrattan then throws a left that misses. Peters misses with another right and then McGrattan bends over with his hand on his face. Peter's notices that McGrattan is hurt so he signals that the linesmen need to break it up.
 CrazyPsycho
1119 fight reviews

May 23, 2006 13:33 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
7
Round 3.

McGrattan gets off to a good start, using his jab to set up a good right that takes Peters' helmet. Excellent back and forth segment, both landing a couple good shots. Peters feints a punch and McGrattan looks to counter when Peters lands a massive right that injures McGrattan. Good stuff by Peters to end the fight there.
 SlapShot
207 fight reviews

Jun 30, 2006 16:00 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
8
Round 3 between these two starts out just like the first two, a long square off and an exchange of rights, where a few land early by McGrattan then a bunch are on target but come up short. McGrattan then lands one hard enough to knock Peters' lid off, but he takes it and return fire with a couple of rights, one that really stings McGrattan. As he's getting ready to throw another Peters notices that McGrattan is hurt and waves the linesmen before any more damage is done - classy move and a decisive victory for him in this fight.
dpinzow
183 fight reviews

Feb 4, 2006 16:48 ET
Andrew Peters clear win Fun 
8
Although McGrattan landed more punches Peters landed a MASSIVE right on McGrattan's nose, possibly breaking it.

Good sportsmanship shown by Peters when he saw McGrattan couldn't continue.
billybalz
244 fight reviews

Feb 4, 2006 16:49 ET
Andrew Peters clear win Fun 
7
peters tagged mcgrattan right on the beak with a right and motioned for the linseman to help mcgrattan who left for repairs
drwdan19
1233 fight reviews

Feb 4, 2006 18:54 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
7
Peters showed some real class in this one. He nailed McGrattan in the nose and while he was hunched over, Peters waved the refs over.
Crusher
379 fight reviews

Feb 5, 2006 01:30 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
7
McGrattan started off pretty well but then Peters nailed him with a great right than ended the fight.
riverman72
476 fight reviews

Feb 5, 2006 01:55 ET
Andrew Peters clear win Fun 
7
Mcgrattan early on had the edge but peters came back with a big punch
flush to the nose.
After that mcgrattan had enough.
Peters showed alot of class he really could have teed of on him.
Ramses
44 fight reviews

Feb 5, 2006 05:26 ET
Andrew Peters narrow win Fun 
7
Quite good heavyweight battle.
Joker
334 fight reviews

Feb 5, 2006 06:09 ET
Andrew Peters clear win Fun 
7
Brawls26
523 fight reviews

Feb 5, 2006 10:27 ET
Andrew Peters clear win Fun 
7
Peters wins Round6 after McGrattan leaves himself wide open for the solid right from Andrew. McGrattan was hurt and unable to continue.

Clear win for last seasons top rookie vs this seasons top rookie.
CDD
4408 fight reviews
4 fight logs

Feb 5, 2006 12:23 ET
Andrew Peters narrow win Fun 
8
MarkV
396 fight reviews

Feb 6, 2006 06:34 ET
Andrew Peters clear win Fun 
8
McGrattan had control of this one early and it seemed that he was landing more and Peters punches couldn't quite reach, then BINGO! Peters gets a good one in on McGrattan and once he sees he is unable to continue Peters calls in the refs.
ShootFace
1688 fight reviews
1 fight log

Feb 6, 2006 16:18 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
7
Now dont call me a homer just cause McGrattan lost...
habsfan1987
144 fight reviews

May 25, 2006 16:09 ET
Andrew Peters clear win Fun 
8
The trade a few punches and Peters lands a huge right. McGrattan was hurt and couldn't continue.
lilburtis9363
1006 fight reviews

Jul 28, 2006 16:43 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
8
mcgrattan starts off getting a lot of jersey jabs in and some shots, peters finally starts coming back and they go back and forth, mcgrattan throws a big jersey jab, then peters fakes a punch then throws in when mcgrattan looks back huge punch caught mcgrattan over the right eye which swelled up, mcgrattan tries to fight back and is leaning to his right side with his arm in front of his face turned away, peters calls the linesman in b/c mcgrattan is clearly hurt
moisty69
584 fight reviews

Aug 18, 2006 10:56 ET
Andrew Peters clear win Fun 
8
what a bomb by peters
mullet
19528 fight reviews

Dec 6, 2007 05:38 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
7
Lrob24
1522 fight reviews

May 9, 2008 16:56 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
7
Peters lands a bomb at the end that hurts McGrattan, then Peters shows good sportsmanship and honors the code when McGratton is hurting and calls the linesmen in.
NJ4
273 fight reviews

Mar 2, 2012 15:11 ET
Andrew Peters clear win Fun 
8
This is back when Peters could fight. wow, didnt realize he handled mcgrattan this easily.
TheDanLine
10027 fight reviews

May 11, 2012 10:36 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
7
It was even until Peters landed a bomb that broke McGrattan's orbital bone. McGrattan was clearly hurt and could not continue. Peters lets the officals know to come in and end the fight. Decisive win for Peters.
Murray3
5618 fight reviews

Jul 19, 2013 16:18 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
6
Pretty even until Peters lands that bomb.
itsJ.Millertime
10406 fight reviews

Aug 13 00:17 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
8
Another very good slugfest between the two as again they back and forth trading heavy jersey jabs and thunderous bombs, McGrattan is actually winning the fight narrowly when Peters lands a stiff right that does some damage and causes McGrattan to cover up, decisive win Peters.
supersonic
4483 fight reviews

Aug 13 01:32 ET
Andrew Peters decisive win Fun 
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SarcasticPillow
Aug 19, 2008 22:53 ET
The fight.

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EC
Jul 22, 2015 16:22 ET
Quote from message by BattleshipRules
The 2005-06 season was the best campaign for Peters.


Sorry Battleship but I am going to disagree with you on this. I believe Peter's rookie campaign in 2003-2004 was his best season and his 2006-2007 season was better than this season as well. In his rookie year Peters defeated veteran heavyweights like Eric Cairns, Matt Johnson, Tie Domi, and Darren Langdon. He also had an excellent toe-to-toe battle with Francis Lessard, hammered Kip Brennan twice (he dropped him in the 2nd fight), and he also beat McGrattan in the preseason. Yeah Peters had some bad losses but he was a more willing and entertaining fighter in his rookie season than he ever was in any of the following years.

The only other season that could contend with his rookie year in my view is his 2006-2007 campaign. Peters earned a big win over Donald Brashear who was still a top fighter in the league, and he also beat Colton Orr, dropped Andre Roy, and drew with McGrattan twice. The only guys Peters lost to that year were Brashear in the rematch and Wade Belak who is no slouch. Aside from your opening statement, outstanding review Battleship! You described the fight well (as you always do) and I liked your insights about both Peters and McGrattan and their fighting styles. I'm not sure if I agree that Peters was a top 10 fighter in the 2005-2006 season, but that is another discussion entirely! Best wishes!
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BattleshipRules
Jul 22, 2015 17:30 ET
EC, you never have to be sorry for disagreeing with me. I greatly respect your informed and intelligent viewpoints. You saw Peters fight on a regular basis as a Buffalo native. He did have a very good year in 2003-04. I guess I made too much of him getting destroyed by Matt Johnson. That loss is what made me pick the 2005-06 campaign.

I may have also given him too much props for beating McGrattan. Brian wasn't the great fighter he became at that point. I saw that Peters only lost to McGrattan and Boogaard and that was my rationale. He didn't fight as often and didn't have any big stoppage losses. However,he may have had better wins in the year you referenced.

I will make a slight alteration to my review based on your input. 2005-06 was one of his best seasons for sure. You saw the guy live on a regular basis and that experience is often instructive and lends to your credible argument.
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EC
Jul 23, 2015 11:18 ET
Andrew Peters was one of my favorite Sabres enforcer and he was someone I got to meet in person. As you observed, I did witness many of his fights live from 2006-2008. Peters did suffer some bad losses in 2003-2004 with the Matt Johnson fight being the worst of them. He also suffered 2 losses to Nathan Perrott (he got pummeled in their 3rd fight) and he also lost to Eric Godard, Jim McKenzie, George Laraque in an embarrassing showing, and his old teammate Rob Ray who was at the end of the line.

However I feel he beat many solid opponents who were top notch fighters like Eric Cairns, Matt Johnson in the 1st fight, and Tie Domi. In the 2005-2006 season he beat McGrattan twice which was impressive and I'm not trying to take anything away from that. However the only other opponents he beat were rookie Josh Gratton and George Parros who was also a rookie and a mediocre fighter at that point in his career. Peters had a solid campaign but I don't know if I would personally put him in the top 10 (that's just my opinion).

Thanks for the civil and respectful response Battleship, we need more of that on this site. I just felt compelled to chime in since Peters is someone I am quite familiar with as a Buffalo fan much like you are quite knowledgeable on many Boston Bruins players. I would respect and trust your insight on the many tough guys Boston has employed over the years as well. and thank you for taking my views into consideration.
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BattleshipRules
Jul 23, 2015 12:25 ET
Your input is always valued. The give-and-take of the message posts is designed to provide an exchange of insights that provide illumination and clarity about fighters. I have the greatest respect for you EC. Feel free to provide feedback at any time. God bless you my friend. This site is a better place for sure whenever you contribute. You consistently do great reviews and provide intelligent analysis in your posts.Reply
TheDanLine
Jul 23, 2015 14:57 ET (later updated)
I've seen Peters fight against: Josh Gratton, Triston Grant, and Riley Cote.Reply
TheDanLine
Jul 23, 2015 15:01 ET
IMO, Peters best year was 03-04, followed by 06-07, and then 05-06.Reply
BattleshipRules
Jul 23, 2015 15:20 ET
No problem. You know hockey fights very well. I respect your opinion.Reply
EC
Jul 23, 2015 15:35 ET
Quote from message by BattleshipRules
Your input is always valued. The give-and-take of the message posts is designed to provide an exchange of insights that provide illumination and clarity about fighters. I have the greatest respect for you EC. Feel free to provide feedback at any time. God bless you my friend. This site is a better place for sure whenever you contribute. You consistently do great reviews and provide intelligent analysis in your posts.
Thank you for the kind words Battleship they are appreciated. In all honesty though, I feel you are a superior contributor to the site compared to myself and I feel you have surpassed me in terms of your quality reviews and insight. You are one of only a couple of people that have every review starred, you have more 3 star reviews than anyone else, and you have a LOT more reviews than me (and all but 3 users on this site).
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EC
Jul 23, 2015 15:47 ET
Quote from message by TheDanLine
I've seen Peters fight against: Josh Gratton, Triston Grant, and Riley Cote.


I saw the first fight between Peters and Riley Cote and it was hard to watch as Cote embarassed him. I also saw the 2nd fight between Peters and Josh Gratton as well as his scrap with Jesse Boulerice when Boulerice was with Philladelphia in the 07-08 season.

Quote from message by TheDanLine
IMO, Peters best year was 03-04, followed by 06-07, and then 05-06.


I completely agree with you and this is the order I would put them in too. Like Battleship, I respect your opinion also. You know your hockey fights well, especially when it comes to Philadelphia!
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BattleshipRules
Jul 23, 2015 15:51 ET
Thanks for the kind words. ChrisY2J is a great writer as well. His reviews are consistently excellent. Chris and I are teachers and it helps us articulate reviews well. Others know hockey fighting at least as well, and the insights are valuable.

As for the number of my reviews, I guess it shows I have too much time on my hands. LOL. I try to appreciate the positive contributions of the key contributors here. No.7 did a great job setting up the site. SarcasticPillow produces consistently good reviews. Mullet does a fine job around here.

Your best reviews, EC, are as good as anyone's. Viper's Lad has a lot of great reviews. I guess some healthy competition is good for the site. I love to write and I find reviewing fights keep my writing sharp, and this helps me hone skills I need as a teacher.

I appreciate the compliments. My knowledge isn't superior to many other fine contributors of the site. I'm learning new things over time. You and TheDanLine pointed out that my original stab at a summary of Andrew Peters needed a little more refinement. I appreciate the constructive feedback of a couple of knowledgeable fans.

EC, you don't need to take a back seat to anyone. You are a great contributor. Some of us just happen to have a little more time on our hands to produce a lot of reviews. There are some guys here that don't have a lot of reviews, but have produced some masterpieces, like DatCraftyGekko and ReggieJax77.
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BattleshipRules
Jul 23, 2015 16:01 ET
Other great contributors around here are JetsFan01 who recently changed his screen name to Boreal, I love the old time hockey insights of Terrytoon, WHLFan, and Racersno5Clackson. Yastrebitel44 is a great contributor. Animal, Vasara, O'NeilltheGiant are valuable members around here. Some contribute a lot of reviews. LukeLac and Jim McKenzie have provided a lot of rare videos. I appreciate TheDanLine posting a lot of video clips and adding good top ten lists that demonstrate a lot of knowledge. Mullet and Sarcastic Pillow also have done great lists. I apologize if I missed anyone. DYG is a terrific site!Reply
EC
Jul 23, 2015 16:05 ET
I share your view that mullet, SarcasticPillow, and ChrisY2J are some of the best users on this site and have solid quality reviews.I feel you are right up there with them though. The others that you mentioned are good too. Aside from the sheer amount of data, I believe the best attribute of this website is it enables hockey fans and fight fans with different backgrounds and fanbases to assemble and discuss hockey fights. With this thread, we had you, me, and TheDanLine all discussing a topic and individually we are fans of the Sabres, Bruins, and the Flyers! Plus having fans of different teams means you will get different perspectives on different players.

You and Chris both being teachers certainly does help with your writing skills! I'm the son of a teacher so I suppose that counts for something LOL! I know I don't have to take a backseat to anyone, I was just trying not to boast on myself. You know what the Bible says about pride going before a fall!

Part of the reason I don't have as many reviews (although nearly 3000 isn't exactly a small amount) or write them as frequently is I like to take my time writing each review to ensure it is good quality and I'm selective about what fights I review (for instance I typically won't review a fight if there are already numerous solid reviews of it by others or if there is nothing further I could add by posting a review). However I have started reviewing more lately because after doing a certain number of reviews I like to rate the player's fighting skills for that season. I'm glad you are doing that a lot more as well (I thought your rating for Peters in the 05-06 season was very accurate).
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EC
Jul 23, 2015 16:10 ET
Quote from message by BattleshipRules
Other great contributors around here are JetsFan01 who recently changed his screen name to Boreal, I love the old time hockey insights of Terrytoon, WHLFan, and Racersno5Clackson. Yastrebitel44 is a great contributor. Animal, Vasara, O'NeilltheGiant are valuable members around here. Some contribute a lot of reviews. LukeLac and Jim McKenzie have provided a lot of rare videos. I appreciate TheDanLine posting a lot of video clips and adding good top ten lists that demonstrate a lot of knowledge. Mullet and Sarcastic Pillow also have done great lists. I apologize if I missed anyone. DYG is a terrific site!
I completely agree with you about all of these users. This site has a variety of different people that all contribute to it differently with a diversity of talents.
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chrisY2J
Aug 4, 2016 18:20 ET (later updated)
I recall this fight and this game as being hugely important to the Sabres that year. For the majority of their meetings in the 2005-06 season, the Senators had their way with the Sabres, beating them in every game, at times by horribly lopsided scores. It didn't help that tending goal for the Sens was Buffalo's former hero turned nemesis Dominik Hasek. The Sabres had a pretty good 05-06 regular season campaign, but it looked like the Sens had their number.

Two things happened in this game that were huge moments for the Sabres. First, Andrew Peters clearly defeated Brian McGrattan. McGrattan was the new tough guy on the block and won most of his fights that season. Peters' defeat of Brian was a major boost to Buffalo's morale.

And then an even bigger morale boost happened: the Sabres beat the Senators in this game, the first time they were able to beat them that season. Even better was HOW they beat them: in a shootout, against Dominik Hasek. The rookie Thomas Vanek scored the winning goal with a dazzling maneuver that fooled the Dominator.

That victory meant a lot to the Sabres. They finally knew that they could hang with the Senators, who were on a tear throughout the league that season. And we all know what happened when the Sabres met the Senators in Round Two!
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TheDanLine
Aug 5, 2016 17:05 ET
Peters did a lot of damage to McGrattan in this fight.Reply
chrisY2J
Aug 5, 2016 19:05 ET
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Peters did a lot of damage to McGrattan in this fight.
That he did. Nothing against McGrattan, but I remember watching that game, seeing the fight, and yelling at the TV, "C'mon, Peters, fuckin' get him! Fuck him up!" When Peters cranked him and gestured for the officials to stop it, I was pumped. The Senators were so dominant over the Sabres that season that at that point, any victory over the Sens, either with the fists or goals, was huge.
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EC
Aug 8, 2016 15:12 ET
Quote from message by chrisY2J
I recall this fight and this game as being hugely important to the Sabres that year. For the majority of their meetings in the 2005-06 season, the Senators had their way with the Sabres, beating them in every game, at times by horribly lopsided scores. It didn't help that tending goal for the Sens was Buffalo's former hero turned nemesis Dominik Hasek. The Sabres had a pretty good 05-06 regular season campaign, but it looked like the Sens had their number.

Two things happened in this game that were huge moments for the Sabres. First, Andrew Peters clearly defeated Brian McGrattan. McGrattan was the new tough guy on the block and won most of his fights that season. Peters' defeat of Brian was a major boost to Buffalo's morale.

And then an even bigger morale boost happened: the Sabres beat the Senators in this game, the first time they were able to beat them that season. Even better was HOW they beat them: in a shootout, against Dominik Hasek. The rookie Thomas Vanek scored the winning goal with a dazzling maneuver that fooled the Dominator.

That victory meant a lot to the Sabres. They finally knew that they could hang with the Senators, who were on a tear throughout the league that season. And we all know what happened when the Sabres met the Senators in Round Two!
I remember this game well. It was one of the best games the Sabres had in the 2005-2006 season. You are correct, Ottawa had their way with Buffalo in the first half of the season (in one game they even scored 10 goals against the Sabres). However after this game, Buffalo had the advantage and they would go on to win 2 of the next 3 games they played against Ottawa before the playoffs.

Brian McGrattan and Andrew Peters really did have a big rivalry this season as they fought 4 times. Aside from Derek Boogaard, Peters was the only tough guy who really gave McGrattan any trouble this season as Brian quickly became one of the best fighters in the league. Peters' win over him early in this game had to be a huge shot in the arm for the Sabres and I think it helped give them momentum.

This game was definitely where the tide turned in Buffalo's favor. After this game, the hex was off and as you said, Buffalo knew they could beat Ottawa. I believe this game was a pivotal moment for the Sabres in this season. It gave them much needed confidence against the best team in the league that season and I believe this victory played a part in Buffalo defeating Ottawa 3 months later in the playoffs.
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SarcasticPillow
Aug 8, 2016 16:23 ET (later updated)
Quote from message by chrisY2J
I recall this fight and this game as being hugely important to the Sabres that year. For the majority of their meetings in the 2005-06 season, the Senators had their way with the Sabres, beating them in every game, at times by horribly lopsided scores. It didn't help that tending goal for the Sens was Buffalo's former hero turned nemesis Dominik Hasek. The Sabres had a pretty good 05-06 regular season campaign, but it looked like the Sens had their number.

Two things happened in this game that were huge moments for the Sabres. First, Andrew Peters clearly defeated Brian McGrattan. McGrattan was the new tough guy on the block and won most of his fights that season. Peters' defeat of Brian was a major boost to Buffalo's morale.

And then an even bigger morale boost happened: the Sabres beat the Senators in this game, the first time they were able to beat them that season. Even better was HOW they beat them: in a shootout, against Dominik Hasek. The rookie Thomas Vanek scored the winning goal with a dazzling maneuver that fooled the Dominator.

That victory meant a lot to the Sabres. They finally knew that they could hang with the Senators, who were on a tear throughout the league that season. And we all know what happened when the Sabres met the Senators in Round Two!
Good stuff to know. It's always interesting to see fights that have a profound impact on that single game, but even more so when they go beyond that as you indicate happened with this fight. Also of interest would be that Brian McGrattan probably was in another such fight earlier against one of your favourites, Tie Domi. The Battle of Ontario took on a very different look after McGrattan made the Ottawa Senators that season and put his stamp on that rivalry in the Domi bout.

It definitely adds credence to the arguments in support of fighting's place in the game and certainly adds a human aspect to a game that's becoming increasingly pushed out. Unfortunately I think it happens less and less these days as fighting takes on a smaller role in the game and more people within the hockey community have a general apathy (or worse) towards fighting.

There's no doubt that as a fan I enjoy looking back to a different time when fights meant a lot more in the NHL and there was a greater and more tangible sense of purpose behind them.
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 Chris Neil 6'1'' 1215lb 24None
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Feb 13, 2006 23:42 ET
Both guys dropped the gloves, but barely got anything off as the refs broke it up...just enough action to be classified as a fight despite no fighting majors called...

Neil receives 2 for roughing and Afinogenov 2 for unsportsmanlike conduct...
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ShootFace
Feb 11, 2006 20:03 ET
I just saw this event now and i strongly suggest that it is changed to a rough. There were no punches and only neil had his gloves off. They were just grabbing at the boards after neil gave Afinogenov a little push.Reply
no.7
Feb 12, 2006 04:46 ET
Would you say that there was no clear intention to fight?Reply
ShootFace
Feb 12, 2006 08:29 ET
yes no.7, there was like no wanting to fight at all...even from chara. Chara just wanted to give him a few pushes...i think this should clearly be a rough.Reply
no.7
Feb 12, 2006 09:04 ET
dpinzow,

Would you agree that there was no clear intent to fight?
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WanderingEye
Feb 12, 2006 09:23 ET
I seen this too, didn't really seem like what I'd call a fight. Neil was pushing Afinogenov around a bit, had his gloves down but no punches. I doubt Afinogenov would have fought unless Neil started throwing.Reply
dpinzow
Feb 12, 2006 17:59 ET
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dpinzow,

Would you agree that there was no clear intent to fight?
I'll leave it up to the majority of the board...to me it doesn't matter which way it is called (roughing or fighting).
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no.7
Feb 13, 2006 00:55 ET
Downgraded.Reply


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Feb 4, 2006 23:18 ET
Gaustad got into a shoving match in Ottawa's crease with one of their defensemen. Hasek skates over and smashes Gaustad in the face with the edge of his blocker. This draws a crowd, Ryan Miller skated to Buffalo's blue line but nothing happened. Gaustad tried to confront Hasek, but Hasek skated away and acted like a tough guy, allowing his teammates to get in between them.

Gaustad: 2 minutes for cross checking, 2 minutes for roughing. Hasek: 2 minutes for roughing.
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