Mar 7, 2013
Toronto - Boston2-4

Summary Of Events
1  3:23  Fight  Fraser-McQuaid
2  21:22  Rough  Phaneuf-Marchand
3  31:48  Hit  van Riemsdyk-Boychuk
4  43:28  Rough  Orr-McQuaid
5  50:50  Hit  Holzer-Krejci

 Fight at 3:23
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 Mark Fraser 6'4''  220lb 832170N/A
 Adam McQuaid 6'4''  212lb 81650
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 SarcasticPillow
20572 fight reviews
146 fight logs

Mar 9, 2013 10:41 ET
Mark Fraser clear win Fun 
7
Mark Fraser knocks Jay Pandolfo into the boards from behind and while Pandolfo okay, teammate Adam McQuaid takes exception and drops the gloves with Fraser. The two tough defensemen square off, then move in and get a grip of each other's jerseys. Fraser keeps his right arm free from McQuaid's grip and throws four rights, landing two to the helmet. Fraser pauses and pulls the helmet off McQuaid as McQuaid misses an over the top right. Fraser misses a right and then misses another right while McQuaid just misses with a big right. McQuaid and Fraser then trade straight overhand rights, McQuaid landing one of three while Fraser lands three of five. McQuaid puts his head down and pauses before misses a right while Fraser lands a right from underneath. Fraser follows up with a landing right to the back of the head before missing a right underneath. McQuaid then lands an overhand right as Fraser barely misses a right. Fraser's elbow pad comes off as McQuaid misses a right, then McQuaid misses a right while Fraser lands a right. McQuaid puts his head back down as Fraser misses a right, then McQuaid misses a right before missing an over the top right as Fraser misses a right from underneath. Fraser lands a right as McQuaid lands a right and McQuaid loses his elbow pad. Fraser jersey jabs while McQuaid throws three rights and lands one. Fraser lands two rights to the body and then moves inside as McQuaid misses an overhand right. Fraser throws two rights and lands one, then McQuaid lands a right to the jaw. Fraser throws two rights and lands one to the body, then McQuaid misses a right as Fraser jersey jabs. They pause and the officials step in to break it up. Good tilt between two rugged defensemen. Win to Fraser, he was more accurate and more active. Lots of punches thrown and some definite action in this tilt.
 BattleshipRules
13033 fight reviews

Jan 24, 2016 08:37 ET
Mark Fraser clear win Fun 
7
This was a good scrap. Fraser outclassed a game McQuaid. Mark missed a shot and landed two light blows. He missed a punch. Adam missed two blows and landed a decent right. He missed a couple of shots. Fraser missed a punch and landed a decent blow. He missed a shot and landed a decent punch. He missed two blows and landed an average shot. He missed a punch and landed a solid blow.

McQuaid missed several punches and landed a partial connect. Mark missed a blow, landed an average punch, and missed a shot. He landed a body blow and a solid right. He landed a decent left jab and missed a few follow up attempts. He landed a decent blow and a body shot. Adam landed an average blow and missed a shot. He landed a partial connect. Fraser landed a body blow and missed a couple of shots. He landed a body punch and missed a blow. He landed an average connect. The refs stopped the fight.

I rate this as a clear win for Fraser. He landed many more punches and some of them had powerful impact. McQuaid hung in there and competed until the end, but he came up well short.
NhlGuy73
399 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 19:17 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
5
skacore
1090 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 19:18 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
Great fight here, Fraser hits a Bruin from behind, McQuaid comes across center ice and they square off without hesitation. Back and forth fight, lots of solid shots landed by both but Fraser clearly outlands McQuaid and controls most of the fight.
Anthony19
2974 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 19:19 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
tyban
214 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 19:19 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
Good Battle between the two. It seems like it was gonna be a clear win at first for Fraser but McQuaid started to hold is own about midway through the fight.
XcooperX11
169 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 19:23 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
6
lots of good punches by both, fraser looked like he was more in control
nhl888
343 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 19:23 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
6
Both threw and landed punches but Fraser gets the narrow win for landing more.
Killahpunk
2224 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 19:29 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
8
Excellent fight with Fraser landing the better shots. Win Fraser.
dropthetits
864 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 19:32 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
BostonBruin8
2915 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 19:34 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
AHLer
834 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 19:55 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
6
kg14
191 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 20:02 ET
Mark Fraser clear win Fun 
7
Geez, harsh critics here. This is way better than a 5 and a 6 seems harsh.

Anyway, Fraser controls this bout with ease. McQuaid is answering, but not landing much and he's tired. Fraser is landing body shots and throwing some nice facial punches. I can see a narrow, but I thought Fraser clearly won this bout.
Murray3
6340 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 20:12 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
5
I don't see that much of a good fight. Many missed/body shots.
Mclaren38
44 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 20:17 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
great fight and a good showing by both guys. Fraser gets the edge though landing some bombs.
Mentor666
274 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 20:29 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
6
Fraser all the way on this.....better and more consistent shots......he controlled it
steezyjeeves
1291 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 20:31 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
uppercut24
639 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 20:40 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
Long square-off, they lock on. They both exchange a few punches then Fraser lands a couple and seems to stun McQuaid, maybe McQuaid kind of lost balance or his grip instead. They exchange more, Fraser throws more and lands more. Then Fraser throws a few pretty good body shots as McQuaid stays active. They keep exchanging until they mutually retire from the bout. Narrow win Fraser though I could understand a Clear Win review also.
SmokesLetsGo
5263 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 21:25 ET
Mark Fraser clear win Fun 
6
redwings77
829 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 21:57 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
sadcbjfan
5541 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 22:04 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
Real good fight with both throwing some big right hands. Slight edge to Fraser
flithysniper91
7 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 22:32 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
6
Fraser connected more and mostly controled the fight
Miracle4
367 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 22:44 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
6
Smackdown22
16 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 23:17 ET
Mark Fraser clear win Fun 
7
Very entertaining fight. Both go toe to toe, but Fraser clearly lands the better more effective punches.
weylax09
329 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 23:59 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
soohounds17
16 fight reviews

Mar 8, 2013 00:07 ET
Mark Fraser clear win Fun 
7
Fraser landed more shots and better shots than McQuaid. Good tilt.
TieDomiFan
2391 fight reviews

Mar 8, 2013 03:17 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
mullet
19792 fight reviews

Mar 8, 2013 04:11 ET
Mark Fraser clear win Fun 
7
Good fight. Both guys were throwing them but Fraser clearly landed more and better. Win Fraser.
Rango38
1636 fight reviews

Mar 8, 2013 06:57 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
Very nice fight between these two. Both guys did some damage, but give Fraser the edge here, as he seemed more in control and landed more punches.
nfotiu671
679 fight reviews

Mar 8, 2013 08:04 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
6
0000
7 fight reviews

Mar 8, 2013 10:05 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
Fraser is way more active and lands more and better shots, McQuaid got in a fair amount, but the edge goes to Fraser.
FrAn6
3587 fight reviews

Mar 8, 2013 14:03 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
beer
399 fight reviews

Mar 8, 2013 15:41 ET
Mark Fraser clear win Fun 
7
Really good fight here. Fraser outlanded McQuaid and drew some blood.
crosbyXXX
3956 fight reviews

Mar 15, 2013 16:30 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
Penguins.Bees.Fan82
3232 fight reviews

Oct 24, 2013 17:07 ET
Mark Fraser narrow win Fun 
7
Messages
SlamminSammie
Mar 7, 2013 19:24 ET
Damn it! I turn the channel for one minute and this happens. Who else is going to go tonight?Reply
nhl888
Mar 7, 2013 19:26 ET
Could be Orr and Thornton possibly in this game, both tough teams so we could see more from this game.Reply
NhlGuy73
Mar 7, 2013 19:26 ET
Quote from message by SlamminSammie
Damn it! I turn the channel for one minute and this happens. Who else is going to go tonight?
McLaren lucic and Orr thornton
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Murray3
Mar 7, 2013 19:27 ET
In MTL (2) - (0) Carolina, Prust is a fight away from the Gordie.Reply
napes
Mar 7, 2013 19:30 ET
McLaren and Lucic had two memorable scraps in junior, a long war that was pretty close and a big KO/KD win by McLaren that was basically Lucic's only really big loss in the WHL. I'd like to see them go again.Reply
NhlGuy73
Mar 7, 2013 19:42 ET
Quote from message by JetsFan01
Claude Julien would not like one of his best players going off the ice for five minutes in exchange for a fourth line goon that plays five minutes a night.
100% agree but when tempers get going in a rivalry things happen
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putonthefoil22
Mar 7, 2013 19:50 ET
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0000
Mar 7, 2013 19:59 ET
McLaren vs Lucic anyone?????

now that's a fight I would LOVE to see!!
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skacore
Mar 7, 2013 20:04 ET
It's possible but McLaren has 2 cuts on his face 1 that apparently has 8 (?) stitches from his quick scrap last night so he may not be too willing to go.Reply
0000
Mar 7, 2013 20:11 ET
Quote from message by skacore
It's possible but McLaren has 2 cuts on his face 1 that apparently has 8 (?) stitches from his quick scrap last night so he may not be too willing to go.
damn, shame, caus that would have been an epic fight
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nhl888
Mar 7, 2013 20:20 ET
That would awsome! I know they fought in juniors saw a clip of it.Reply
0000
Mar 7, 2013 20:26 ET
Quote from message by nhl888
That would awsome! I know they fought in juniors saw a clip of it.
who won??
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nhl888
Mar 7, 2013 20:30 ET
Its on this site i just checked, they fought three times in junior first a draw second a tko by Mclaren and thrid another draw.Reply
Boreal
Mar 7, 2013 20:42 ET
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GNR1010
Mar 7, 2013 20:51 ET
Lol exactlyReply
Smackdown22
Mar 7, 2013 23:21 ET
Man Tomahawkchopper is going to have a hard time sleeping tonight. She spends 24 hours a day on DYG trying to convince everyone that the Bruins are invincible and can't be beat. She doesn't have much of a life. Yes Tomahawkchopper is a girl.Reply
Nail2013
Mar 7, 2013 23:30 ET
I won't post a review because of the strange consensus in the reviews already, but I watched that closely and can't believe none said narrow for McQuaid, or at least lots for a draw.... McQuaid landed the best shot in the fight, and probably tied for the 2nd best shot also, most of the other punches missed or some ineffectual body shots

really looked to be a draw if one was seriously grading it
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ytownhockey10
Mar 8, 2013 10:57 ET
If the system is designed to prevent bias, but can be circumvented by creating a new account, is that not a problem? The rash of new users that invade each Boston thread makes this site very difficult to tolerate, particularly when there is so much expressed interest in preserving accurate calls. It doesn't seem productive to track a user's voting history when a new one can be created with little effort, then abandoned before a bias can be discovered.Reply
NhlGuy73
Mar 8, 2013 12:04 ET
Quote from message by Smackdown22
Man Tomahawkchopper is going to have a hard time sleeping tonight. She spends 24 hours a day on DYG trying to convince everyone that the Bruins are invincible and can't be beat. She doesn't have much of a life. Yes Tomahawkchopper is a girl.
i love the Bs but im realistic
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no.7
Mar 8, 2013 12:09 ET
Quote from message by ytownhockey10
If the system is designed to prevent bias, but can be circumvented by creating a new account, is that not a problem? The rash of new users that invade each Boston thread makes this site very difficult to tolerate, particularly when there is so much expressed interest in preserving accurate calls. It doesn't seem productive to track a user's voting history when a new one can be created with little effort, then abandoned before a bias can be discovered.

On the contrary, it can be quite useful in detecting potential cheats. When we get warned by the system of a double-posting we take a close look at the accounts. In case of clear homerism we'd delete all reviews and ban the user comprehensively so that they couldn't access the site at all, let alone create more accounts.

As a result, we get rid many of cheats quickly and easily. Just like you, they normally think that they can create as many names as they want and get away with it.
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michiann
Mar 8, 2013 14:40 ET
Quote from message by no.7
On the contrary, it can be quite useful in detecting potential cheats. When we get warned by the system of a double-posting we take a close look at the accounts. In case of clear homerism we'd delete all reviews and ban the user comprehensively so that they couldn't access the site at all, let alone create more accounts.

As a result, we get rid many of cheats quickly and easily. Just like you, they normally think that they can create as many names as they want and get away with it.
No. 7 > I applaud you for keeping an eye out on duplicate-owner accounts that try to undermine the integrity of the voting system here.
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ExclamationPoint
Apr 16, 2013 17:16 ET
Maybe you should take a look for bias in Mclaren38. Every Toronto fight he seems to either pump up a win or minimize a loss for a Leaf fighter. Also interesting that he stopped at 28 reviews, just short of the 30 it takes for bias to go away or getting your reviews pulled and/or account banned.....almost like he knows that rule??Reply
no.7
Apr 17, 2013 08:20 ET
He's still reviewing and we'll see how it goes. Right now, his bias is within acceptable limits even though only just about.Reply
ExclamationPoint
Apr 17, 2013 18:45 ET
Quote from message by no.7
He's still reviewing and we'll see how it goes. Right now, his bias is within acceptable limits even though only just about.
Thank you. I know not much gets by your radar!!
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Rough at 21:22
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 Dion Phaneuf 6'3'' 6227lb 40N/A
 Brad Marchand 5'9'' 6187lb 40
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Samuelsson
16878 fight reviews

Mar 8, 2013 04:17 ET
These two pushed and shove each other along the boards until referee jumped in. Fun 
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Hit at 31:48
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 James van Riemsdyk  (Victim) 6'3'' 1217lb 10None
 Johnny Boychuk  (Aggressor) 6'2'' 1227lb 10
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skacore
1090 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 20:37 ET
A breakout passes comes to Van Riemsdyk at the Leafs blueline and Boychuk reads it perfectly and steps up, luckily for Van Riemsdyk he sees him at the last second, he can't get out of the train tracks but he absorbs the hit that knocks him back to a knee. Could have been devastating if Van Riemsdyk didn't see it coming. Could have also escalated into a fight if T.O. had the right guys on the ice, unfortunately they didn't. Dirty 
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BostonBruin8
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Mar 7, 2013 20:57 ET
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17Bruins22
Mar 7, 2013 21:32 ET
I love seeing the Bruins haters. You know damn well if Lucic was on your team you wouldn't be saying that. Lucic fought Orr when he was 20, I guarantee if they fought now it'd be a lot closerReply
Fighting101
Mar 7, 2013 21:52 ET
Quote from message by 17Bruins22
I love seeing the Bruins haters. You know damn well if Lucic was on your team you wouldn't be saying that. Lucic fought Orr when he was 20, I guarantee if they fought now it'd be a lot closer
Did a single person comment negatively about the Bruins here? No. So why are you crying?
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17Bruins22
Mar 7, 2013 21:58 ET
Quote from message by Fighting101
Did a single person comment negatively about the Bruins here? No. So why are you crying?
Posted in the wrong spot
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LukeLaC
Mar 8, 2013 06:48 ET
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Rough at 43:28
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 Colton Orr 6'3'' 1222lb 10None
 Adam McQuaid 6'4'' 1212lb 10
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southernpride09
133 fight reviews

Mar 7, 2013 21:17 ET
Big hit by Orr on I want to say Marchand but I'm not 100% sure, McQuaid doesn't really come in he's just there, but Orr takes it as he wants to go, he drops his gloves and throws a punch and the ref comes in. Fun 
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Murray3
Mar 7, 2013 21:20 ET
McQuaid just wanted to act badass there, it's obvious that he didn't want to fight knowing it was Colton Orr.

Actually McQuaid kind of slowed down the spot-picking this season and that's why he's a 1-3 ahah.
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AHLer
Mar 7, 2013 21:23 ET
I really want to see Orr beat the living shit out of LucicReply
Murray3
Mar 7, 2013 21:25 ET
Quote from message by AHLer
I really want to see Orr beat the living shit out of Lucic
Sadly, Lucic skates better than Orr, which means Colton will not be able to finish him when he decides to run away.
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SmokesLetsGo
Mar 7, 2013 21:26 ET
Lucic is way to afraid of him for that to happen. Sort of like McQuaid.Reply
AHLer
Mar 7, 2013 21:30 ET
A fight I've always wanted to see and hopefully we will see it next game is Engelland Vs Lucic obviously we won't see it if Lucic leaves his balls at home as usualReply
Murray3
Mar 7, 2013 21:33 ET
Quote from message by SmokesLetsGo
Lucic is way to afraid of him for that to happen. Sort of like McQuaid.
Sort of like the Bruins in general who, as a team, like to goon it up against soft teams but are playing so tiny when facing a team with toughness.
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SmokesLetsGo
Mar 7, 2013 21:41 ET
I like Lucic as a player, but there is no way anybody can deny that he is afraid of the big boys. Hes really only down to fight against guys he knows he can bully, hes not a fan of even match-ups. Which is too bad, because I think if he was willing to go with the heavies and take some losses, he would rack up some good wins too.Reply
17Bruins22
Mar 7, 2013 21:45 ET
The envy of the bruins is unbelievableReply
KarlRacki
Mar 7, 2013 21:53 ET
Yeah Lucic is scared of the Big Boys. That explains why he is 2-0 vs Carkner, 1-1 vs Erskine, and had a great fight with Orr, not to mention his fights with Ivanans and Brookbank.

Bottom line, its 2013. First and second line guys aren't fighting 4th liners. We will never see the likes of a Tocchet, Neely, Clark ever again. Roberts was probably the last thing close.
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Smackdown22
Mar 7, 2013 23:18 ET
Quote from message by KarlRacki
Yeah Lucic is scared of the Big Boys. That explains why he is 2-0 vs Carkner, 1-1 vs Erskine, and had a great fight with Orr, not to mention his fights with Ivanans and Brookbank.

Bottom line, its 2013. First and second line guys aren't fighting 4th liners. We will never see the likes of a Tocchet, Neely, Clark ever again. Roberts was probably the last thing close.
LOL @ 1-1 vs. Erskine. He's 0-1-1 against Erskine bud. Quit making crap up. His record against HW's is 2-3-2. Take away Carkner, and he's 0-3-2. That explains why he has only fought 7 HW's in 6 years in the league.
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Smackdown22
Mar 7, 2013 23:19 ET
Quote from message by Murray3
Sort of like the Bruins in general who, as a team, like to goon it up against soft teams but are playing so tiny when facing a team with toughness.
Agreed.
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weylax09
Mar 7, 2013 23:21 ET
yah man bruins players are pussies man yahhh sweet dude right guys am i cool yet? to be popular on this site you gotta bash everything about the bruins yahhh man just cuz all the other teams suck we bash the bruins woohoooReply
Smackdown22
Mar 7, 2013 23:22 ET
Quote from message by weylax09
yah man bruins players are pussies man yahhh sweet dude right guys am i cool yet? to be popular on this site you gotta bash everything about the bruins yahhh man just cuz all the other teams suck we bash the bruins woohooo
LOL. and you wonder why with a post like this.
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AHLer
Mar 8, 2013 06:03 ET
Quote from message by SmokesLetsGo
I like Lucic as a player, but there is no way anybody can deny that he is afraid of the big boys. Hes really only down to fight against guys he knows he can bully, hes not a fan of even match-ups. Which is too bad, because I think if he was willing to go with the heavies and take some losses, he would rack up some good wins too.
If your fight card reads 64-8-23 then you're not fighting the right guys. But Bruins fan are always going to say why would he fight 4th line goons when he's a top line player? He shouldn't every game but it would be nice to see him fight instead of run away
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shalom
Mar 8, 2013 08:27 ET
orr and mclaren can reck any guy on boston n anybody in the eastern confrence.. except for big mac if he ever playsReply
DerDiggler
Mar 8, 2013 08:53 ET
McQuaid was MUCH tougher when the aggressor of the hit was Raffi Torres. This play sums up the bully/spot picking mentality of the Bruins.Reply
NhlGuy73
Mar 8, 2013 09:01 ET
Quote from message by AHLer
A fight I've always wanted to see and hopefully we will see it next game is Engelland Vs Lucic obviously we won't see it if Lucic leaves his balls at home as usual
next Bs game is against philly so i highly doubt engellland will be there
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NhlGuy73
Mar 8, 2013 09:02 ET
Quote from message by shalom
orr and mclaren can reck any guy on boston n anybody in the eastern confrence.. except for big mac if he ever plays
well before last night id say dont count out thornton but uhhhh not anymore
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big77
Mar 8, 2013 09:46 ET
I am as big a Bruins fan as anybody. I love Lucic. I would LOVE to see him fight more and more specifically more legit heavy weights. But it just isn't happening. For whatever argument, he just is not fighting these guys. He's scared, It's not a good trade, he's more of a hockey player than fighter....etc, etc. What I don't understand is why people get so mad about it! It's probably becasue a lot of Boston fans egg it on with homer reviews and biases but even then - why so mad? If/when he fights a heavy and actually wins (maybe) it still won't be good enough! He'd have to fight heavy after heavy 25 times a year for the next 5 years to even make up for not doing it the past 5 years. And even then, if he wins, it'll probably be useless becasue it will be perceived as Boston Homer Biases. If he loses then its "i knew he was a pusssy" type attitude from everyone else! It's a no win. Just enjoy the fights everyone is in and don't worry about Lucic - concentrate on legit fighters like the Toronto boys, Jon Scott, Thornton etc. Then you will be happier people!Reply
0000
Mar 8, 2013 10:12 ET
Quote from message by weylax09
yah man bruins players are pussies man yahhh sweet dude right guys am i cool yet? to be popular on this site you gotta bash everything about the bruins yahhh man just cuz all the other teams suck we bash the bruins woohooo
the are pusses though................
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0000
Mar 8, 2013 10:14 ET
Quote from message by shalom
orr and mclaren can reck any guy on boston n anybody in the eastern confrence.. except for big mac if he ever plays
McLaren would put Lucic in the ICU with one punch, now that would be a sight to behold!
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DerDiggler
Mar 8, 2013 11:02 ET
Quote from message by big77
I am as big a Bruins fan as anybody. I love Lucic. I would LOVE to see him fight more and more specifically more legit heavy weights. But it just isn't happening. For whatever argument, he just is not fighting these guys. He's scared, It's not a good trade, he's more of a hockey player than fighter....etc, etc. What I don't understand is why people get so mad about it! It's probably becasue a lot of Boston fans egg it on with homer reviews and biases but even then - why so mad? If/when he fights a heavy and actually wins (maybe) it still won't be good enough! He'd have to fight heavy after heavy 25 times a year for the next 5 years to even make up for not doing it the past 5 years. And even then, if he wins, it'll probably be useless becasue it will be perceived as Boston Homer Biases. If he loses then its "i knew he was a pusssy" type attitude from everyone else! It's a no win. Just enjoy the fights everyone is in and don't worry about Lucic - concentrate on legit fighters like the Toronto boys, Jon Scott, Thornton etc. Then you will be happier people!
I think the issue most people have with Lucic is the fact he is very eager to drop the gloves with middles and non-fighters, but doesn't seem as eager against legit guys.

5 in the box is 5 in the box. It he's too valuable to the team (which seems to be the excuse B's fans use most of the time) he shouldn't be fighting anyone.

It's more the Lucic apologists than Lucic himself. I think anybody with any kind of hockey knowledge understands he's a very good fighter. He just disappears on occasion when the other team has real fighters.
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DerDiggler
Mar 8, 2013 11:04 ET
The incident I'd use to illustrate this the best would against Philly last season.

He boarded Rinaldo and then allowed Horton to catch a beat down for it.
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NhlGuy73
Mar 8, 2013 12:08 ET
Quote from message by Murray3
McQuaid just wanted to act badass there, it's obvious that he didn't want to fight knowing it was Colton Orr.

Actually McQuaid kind of slowed down the spot-picking this season and that's why he's a 1-3 ahah.
I don't think McQauid wanted to go even if it was Kessel here! Just bad timing for him it looks bad but he didn't wanna go a 2nd time
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NhlGuy73
Mar 8, 2013 12:11 ET
Quote from message by AHLer
If your fight card reads 64-8-23 then you're not fighting the right guys. But Bruins fan are always going to say why would he fight 4th line goons when he's a top line player? He shouldn't every game but it would be nice to see him fight instead of run away
I LOVE the Bs I bleed black&gold HOWEVER i can't sit here and say Lucic is the man he never spot picks becuase he DOES! Yes this season he fought Carkner great job but he could've gone after Orr when Orr went after McQuaid that wya but no Orr already broke his nose once, granted Lucic and be spending every game being liek thornton his production is to vauleable (can we agree his playing skill is very good) but com'on here and there Luc drop with the big boys
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ExclamationPoint
Mar 8, 2013 16:43 ET
Quote from message by Smackdown22
LOL @ 1-1 vs. Erskine. He's 0-1-1 against Erskine bud. Quit making crap up. His record against HW's is 2-3-2. Take away Carkner, and he's 0-3-2. That explains why he has only fought 7 HW's in 6 years in the league.
I really wish people would quit bagging on Lucic. He is a badass, power forward, the likes of which we need more of. He has spot picked some fights but he has also danced with some top heavies and some not-so-top but still heavies. He KO'ed Carkner this year and beat him last year. He fought but lost to Orr, he beat Sestito, he beat McCormick, he took a draw with Rosehill, he has bloodied Neil and Prust and also lost to each of them, he fought Allen (who may be soft but he's still as big as Lucic), Vendermeer, Boll, Harrison (another soft but semi-capable big guy), Crombeen, Boulton, Bell, Eager, and Ivanans. As a junior, he fought McLaren more than once, Boogaard (shamefully not Derek) but still a boogeyman of sorts, Matt Kassian (he's huge). So to say Lucic only spot-picks is ridiculous. If you want to see a real spot-picker or 2, look at the Canfucks. Maxime Lapussierre and Kevin Bitcheksa.
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ExclamationPoint
Mar 8, 2013 16:56 ET
I'm going to call myself out along with other posters. I hear a lot of talk about top 5 heavies but I'd be delighted to see who those 5 are. I'll post my list and I invite everyone else to do the same.

1. Brian McGrattan (too bad he doesn't play more)
2. John Scott (I know this will take some heat but he is legit in my book)
3. Colton Orr (Even though I don't think he's that great, in todays league, he is legit)
4. Matt Carkner (Injuries and lack of playing time have hurt his status some)
5. ??? Frazer McLaren, George Parros, Tom Sestito, Kevin Westgarth??? Lots of possibilities for the final top spot!
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SmokesLetsGo
Mar 8, 2013 17:10 ET
1. McGrattan
2. Bordeleau
3. Orr
4. Scott (I think he would pass Orr if he fought him a couple more times)
5. McLaren
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ExclamationPoint
Mar 8, 2013 17:25 ET
Quote from message by SmokesLetsGo
1. McGrattan
2. Bordeleau
3. Orr
4. Scott (I think he would pass Orr if he fought him a couple more times)
5. McLaren
I thought about adding Bordeleau to that 5th spot but he only has 9 NHL fights and hasn't proven himself just yet.

Thanks for posting your list! I hope to get many more.
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SmokesLetsGo
Mar 8, 2013 17:50 ET
I think Bordeleau has completely owned enough legit heavyweights, even if it was in the AHL and in only a couple NHL fights, to spundly say that he is a BAD motherfucker who could wreck just about anybody. I think he might even be able to handle McGrattan. And now that McGrattan is in Calgary and (presumably) going to get in the lineup, we may even get to see it.Reply
KarlRacki
Mar 8, 2013 20:28 ET
Smackoff,

He def got a decision against Erskine in Washington.
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Smackdown22
Mar 8, 2013 22:10 ET
Quote from message by KarlRacki
Smackoff,

He def got a decision against Erskine in Washington.
No he didn't. Even the majority of posters on Dropyourgloves called it a draw. Now you're just being a homer.
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KarlRacki
Mar 8, 2013 23:17 ET
Smackoff,

Even at 0-1-1, Lucic has gone 2-0 against the league champ of 2 years ago, inlcuding a impressive win this year, nit to mention he looked good against Orr, better then most have.

But since you expect a 1st liner to fight every heavyweight in the league in 2013, I guess there is no point arguing with you.
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AHLer
Mar 9, 2013 09:33 ET
Quote from message by NhlGuy73
next Bs game is against philly so i highly doubt engellland will be there
Obviously I meant the next Pens Bruins game smart arse
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Smackdown22
Mar 9, 2013 20:59 ET
Quote from message by KarlRacki
Smackoff,

Even at 0-1-1, Lucic has gone 2-0 against the league champ of 2 years ago, inlcuding a impressive win this year, nit to mention he looked good against Orr, better then most have.

But since you expect a 1st liner to fight every heavyweight in the league in 2013, I guess there is no point arguing with you.
You Bruins fans and you're "Lucic is too valuable" argument. LOL. That has been refuted long ago.
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DerDiggler
Mar 12, 2013 11:03 ET
Quote from message by NhlGuy73
I don't think McQauid wanted to go even if it was Kessel here! Just bad timing for him it looks bad but he didn't wanna go a 2nd time
Do you really believe that, or are you looking through black and gold tinted glasses?

Recent history doesn't back that theory up. If it was anyone but Orr or McLaren, McQuaid would've jumped in IMMEDIATELY.
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NhlGuy73
Mar 12, 2013 11:04 ET
I have to disagree sorryReply
NhlGuy73
Mar 12, 2013 11:06 ET
Quote from message by DerDiggler
Do you really believe that, or are you looking through black and gold tinted glasses?

Recent history doesn't back that theory up. If it was anyone but Orr or McLaren, McQuaid would've jumped in IMMEDIATELY.
In addition McQuaid is a MIDDLE WEIGHT he isn't a heavy weight
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