Oct 23, 2013
Boston - Buffalo5-2

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1  42:22  Rough  Marchand-Larsson
2  45:49  Cheap Shot  Eriksson-Scott
3  45:49  Fight  McQuaid-Scott

Rough at 42:22
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 Brad Marchand 5'9'' 2187lb 16N/A
 Johan Larsson 5'11'' 2203lb 16
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Oct 24, 2013 03:50 ET
This happened near the Bruins bench. These two a few times pushed each other and then referee stepped in. Fun 
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Samuelsson
Oct 24, 2013 03:50 ET
02:22 BOS C. Kelly Roughing against J. Larsson
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Cheap Shot at 45:49
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 Loui Eriksson  (Victim) 6'1'' 7183lb 87N/A
 John Scott  (Aggressor) 6'8'' 7270lb 87
John Scott suspended for 7 games
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 Boreal
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Oct 27, 2013 11:52 ET
Loui Eriksson took a pass from Patrice Bergeron and advanced up to center ice. Eriksson deked and then dumped the puck into the Buffalo zone. John Scott had been making his way over towards Eriksson. A few moments after Eriksson shot the puck in, Scott nailed him with an elbow right to the jaw. Eriksson fell down to his knees and was in some real discomfort. Adam McQuaid did not hesitate to challenge Scott and defend his teammate. The fight was rather brief as McQuaid threw Scott down to the ice after a few seconds but he still earned respect from both sides. Eriksson immediately recieved help from his teammates to get off the ice. Eriksson looked like he had no idea where he was. Boston coach Claude Julien was irate and was looking at Buffalo coach Ron Rolston.

This was a blatant cheap shot. The hit was late, the principle point of contact was the head and Scott used his elbow to deliver the check. Eriksson was woozy getting up and as a result of the hit he sustained a concussion which put him out of the lineup for an unknown amount of time.

This was rather similar to what occurred when Milan Lucic ran into Buffalo goaltender Ryan Miller two seasons prior. Buffalo was incensed about the hit and vowed there would be retalation with Miller and Lindy Ruff both slamming Lucic for the hit. That retalation ended up being a mediocre fight in which Buffalo enforcer Paul Gaustad got creamed. Buffalo was the laughing stock of the league and their feeble attempts to stand up to Boston did nothing but send a message to Buffalo management that if the team didn't get tougher, they would not find success in this league.

One of Buffalo GM Darcy Regier's first signings in the following offseason was John Scott. Scott was respected and feared by many people throughout the league. It took him a while to debut with the Sabres but when he did he made a quick impression. After suffering his first major NHL loss to Colton Orr, Scott dropped the gloves against Boston heavyweight Shawn Thornton. It was going to be the definitive battle to prove wether or not Buffalo could finally fight back against Boston.

In that fight, Thornton got absolutely creamed. Ten punches was all it took for Scott to drop Thornton down to the ice and knock him out of the Boston lineup with a concussion. It was a crushing KO defeat for Thornton and the Bruins themselves. Buffalo had found someone to fight their battles for them. The two teams did find a moment of peace in their rivalry when they faced off against each other two days after the tragic bombings at the Boston Marathon. The season ended on a peaceful note but the past will never be forgotten.

This cheap shot could possibly reignite the events of the past two seasons. There will surely be retaliation from someone tougher on the Bruins the next time these two teams meet. We could see a rematch between Thornton and Scott have round two, captain Zdeno Chara defend one of the Bruins' top stars or even Milan Lucic give fans the battle that they have always wanted to see. But no matter what the outcome is, it will surely lead to another event in the heated rivalry between these two teams. Only time will tell what happens next...
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sadcbjfan
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Oct 23, 2013 22:09 ET
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KidRoberts
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Oct 23, 2013 22:12 ET
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NHLFAN4LIFE
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Oct 23, 2013 22:13 ET
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JBL619
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Oct 23, 2013 22:14 ET
Scott likes to try and injure star players, so no surprise here Dirty 
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GrinderRole
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Oct 23, 2013 22:45 ET
Scott with an elbow to Eriksson's face. A little dirty, but not ranked an 8+ Dirty 
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steezyjeeves
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Oct 23, 2013 22:49 ET
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Anthony19
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Oct 23, 2013 22:50 ET
A north-South hit will always be clean in my opinion. If you're in the trolly tracks with you're head down, it deserves to be taken off. Thats exactly what happened here. Loui admired his pass and he payed for it. Scott Stevens made a living with this hit. It looked like the elbow got up in the follow through. To me, Scott connected with his shoulder. What is a 6'8 guy supposed to do? Emotion 
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SmokesLetsGo
5262 fight reviews

Oct 23, 2013 22:52 ET
This is a clean hit on a player who is stupidly admiring his pass.

Give me a fucking break, this should not have even been a penalty.
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-boltsnation-
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Oct 23, 2013 23:04 ET
Scott is 6 foot 8, its pretty hard to make a clean body check. Just a typical clean Scott Steven's type hit here. Dirty 
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DerDiggler
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Oct 23, 2013 23:06 ET
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Murray3
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Oct 23, 2013 23:19 ET
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panthers305
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Oct 23, 2013 23:30 ET
eriksson had his head down and scott went after the body, but eriksson tried to move at the last second and his head got hit instead. nothing dirty. Dirty 
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Sabbath
516 fight reviews

Oct 23, 2013 23:47 ET
Was quite late not to mention the elbow was up a little bit Dirty 
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Bupz91
164 fight reviews

Oct 24, 2013 00:18 ET
Loui Eriksson came up to about center ice before shooting a pass into the offensive zone when Scott came from his right side and hit him high. Scott had the elbow involved likely due to height, but it isn't a hit that sticks out as dirty to me. Eriksson had his head down and was not focused on what was around him, instead watching his pass. Upon first view it looks very close to the Neil-Drury hit that sparked the Ottawa vs Buffalo brawl in 2007. Dirty 
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Killaton501
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Oct 24, 2013 00:22 ET
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crossovert
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Oct 24, 2013 00:29 ET
Didn't look that bad to me, Scott is a big guy so obviously a high hit, wasn't as late as douche canoe is saying it is. Wasn't that big of a hit either. Dirty 
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LOOCH17
90 fight reviews

Oct 24, 2013 02:43 ET
Bergeron passes the puck to Louie Eriksson through the defensive zone. Eriksson receives the pass on the centre line who passes it through the neutral zone before he gets crushed by John Scott, this was a dirty hit as he connects with the elbow and then follows through as well. Eriksson was dazed and needed help getting off the ice.

A suspension is imminent and probably 5 games should be suffice.
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TieDomiFan
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Oct 24, 2013 02:52 ET
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PhillyGuy
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Oct 24, 2013 06:31 ET
Scott being 6ft 8 even makes himself smaller before the hit how are people giving this an 8? Dirty 
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Rango38
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Oct 24, 2013 07:20 ET
In my opinion, the size differential between the players made this hit look worse than it really was. Players like Scott and Chara are often the victims of their own height because of leverage; they can't change the laws of physics. The hit may have been a little late, but I don't believe Scott went out of his way to deliberatly injure Eriksson. Dirty 
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tampa22
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Oct 24, 2013 09:44 ET
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Animal
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Oct 24, 2013 10:33 ET
Clean hit. First contact is to the body. Dirty 
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joethornton19
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Oct 24, 2013 11:57 ET
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Oct 24, 2013 12:34 ET
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Oct 24, 2013 16:01 ET
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Oct 24, 2013 16:06 ET
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jpsyr
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Oct 28, 2013 00:33 ET
John Scott see's an opportunity to deliver a hit to Eriksson, Eriksson makes his pass andpays no attention to the incoming John Scott, who arrives in good time, not at all late, and leans into Eriksson who, while admiring his own pass, is plastered in the face with the shoulder of Scott...Not dirty, just good clean hit to a not to attentive Eriksson...And Im a Bruins fan Dirty 
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crosbyXXX
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Nov 14, 2013 17:10 ET
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jagger
Oct 23, 2013 22:14 ET
what did he do now?Reply
owenfinn16
Oct 23, 2013 22:15 ET
Goon scott elbows Louie then mcqauid goes at scott. John scott is embarrassing to the league and will be suspended. At least he went afeter another fighter in EricssonReply
hockeyguy101
Oct 23, 2013 22:15 ET
I do want to see a replay. It didn't look like he intentionally went in with the elbow, instead leaned in with the shoulder and he's 6'8. Will have to see a replay to judge more but, I'm on the fence.Reply
thecrazycanadien
Oct 23, 2013 22:23 ET
That's what you get when you admire your own pass. These euros better wake up. Hit by a good old North American boy. Remember , this is hockey and not ballet.Reply
bradu
Oct 23, 2013 22:27 ET
tend to agree with you crazy...I have a hard time deeming any hit to the head being considered dirty. What Scott did was a beauty of a clean hit when I started watching hockey in the 90's, now when a nice hit like that happens everyone acts like it's a repeat of McSorely stick swinging on Brashear.

He did hit him in the head. But it didn't look intentionally nasty or dirty, he went in shoulder first and Louie was leaning with his head and looking the other way.
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owenfinn16
Oct 23, 2013 22:29 ET
Wow must have never played hockey both announcers said it was a dirty hit,but I guess you know better.Reply
SmokesLetsGo
Oct 23, 2013 22:47 ET
Right... because every NHL announcer is a completely unbiased database of hockey wisdom, and totally are allowed free-reign to insult the leagues stance on stopping physical play....Reply
WanderingEye
Oct 23, 2013 22:50 ET
I know when I want intelligent hockey analysis I look to Pierre McGuire and Mike MilburyReply
Murray3
Oct 23, 2013 22:51 ET
GIVE JOHN SCOTT A MEDAL.Reply
steezyjeeves
Oct 23, 2013 22:53 ET
Quote from message by thecrazycanadien
That's what you get when you admire your own pass. These euros better wake up. Hit by a good old North American boy. Remember , this is hockey and not ballet.
If this isn't satire you seriously need to wake up. There is absolutely no fun in seeing someone get hurt like this. John Scott is an absolute joke, and having players like him in the NHL makes a mockery of the league.

This hit was dangerous and unnecessary. Late, directed at the head, and a blindside hit. Blaming this on the victim of the hit is ignorant and pathetic.

I hope Shanahan throws the book at him.
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owenfinn16
Oct 23, 2013 22:53 ET
Sorry your right a completely legal elbow. Sorry for the confusionReply
SmokesLetsGo
Oct 23, 2013 22:54 ET
Clean hit. John Scott isn't responsible for the fact that he grew to be 6'8" and Eriksson didn't.

Lets see how hard Shanny shits the bed on this one
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DerDiggler
Oct 23, 2013 22:54 ET
Oh ok then. Jack Edwards said it was dirty so it must be.

He also has never given a loss to any Bruin a fight without making some excuse.
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owenfinn16
Oct 23, 2013 22:55 ET
Wow just dumb. There should be an IQ test to be able to post on the site and we could eliminate people like this. 50 or above minimum.Reply
thecrazycanadien
Oct 23, 2013 22:55 ET
Played plenty of hockey boy. Same kind of hit lucheese put on Miller a couple of years ago. What goes around comes around especially in hockey.Reply
SmokesLetsGo
Oct 23, 2013 22:56 ET
You have to remember when dealing with the Bruins fans, Jack Edwards is King.Reply
owenfinn16
Oct 23, 2013 22:59 ET
Not even close lucic elbow as down. Get a clueReply
SmokesLetsGo
Oct 23, 2013 23:03 ET
Whose to say that a hit is "unnecessary"? Physical intimidation is a major part of contact-oriented sports, and plays a strategic role in the game.

I will never understand how there are actually people who watch hockey and harbor such an opinion as you described.
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Murray3
Oct 23, 2013 23:04 ET
Quote from message by owenfinn16
Wow just dumb. There should be an IQ test to be able to post on the site and we could eliminate people like this. 50 or above minimum.
You're on the wrong site bud.

Go back to HFBoards.
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sadcbjfan
Oct 23, 2013 23:08 ET
Quote from message by SmokesLetsGo
Whose to say that a hit is "unnecessary"? Physical intimidation is a major part of contact-oriented sports, and plays a strategic role in the game.

I will never understand how there are actually people who watch hockey and harbor such an opinion as you described.
It's also 2013. In 2003 that's a great hit. But he didnt catch him square on the body. He took a bad angle and caught all head. Doesn't fly anymore.
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steezyjeeves
Oct 23, 2013 23:10 ET
Quote from message by SmokesLetsGo
Whose to say that a hit is "unnecessary"? Physical intimidation is a major part of contact-oriented sports, and plays a strategic role in the game.

I will never understand how there are actually people who watch hockey and harbor such an opinion as you described.
It's because you aren't there to watch hockey. You, like most of the posters on this site, are watching hoping to see something dramatic like this. You're happy to disregard the safety of the players as long as you get your kicks.

I am watching for the HOCKEY. I want to see plays being made. I like to see big hits and emotional scraps as much as the next guy, but to me they are a compliment to the game, not a defining factor. The last thing I want to see is a playmaker like Eriksson get hurt by a useless plug like Scott.

I understand the strategy behind intimidation, believe me. But you don't need a monster like Scott or Orr on your team to provide the intimidation factor. This is where guys like Neil and Thornton play a role. They play rough, but also contribute offensively. (And no, I'm not saying they're squeaky clean either).

This was an irresponsible play, end of story.
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SmokesLetsGo
Oct 23, 2013 23:12 ET
I like to think that there is a certain sanctity to the game, where shit decisions by bad league leadership can't truly ruin its game at the core, but moreso showcase their disrespect for the game that they are ruining. A hit like this is still a clean hit just as it always has been, and a Shanaban-joke of a decision does not have the power to change that.Reply
SmokesLetsGo
Oct 23, 2013 23:18 ET
You're making projections about the hockey experience/knowledge of people that you have absolutely no idea of who they are, so your argument is absolutely 100% baseless and laughable at best.

A players role on the team or skills on the ice should have no bearing on the judgement of their play whatsoever. If a skill-player throws the same hit on a 3 shift/game goon, it is a clean hit, same as this.

If you honestly believe that one cannot be an advocate of physical intimidation and the high-end skill of a sport, then you should probably just start getting into basketball or soccer now.
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steezyjeeves
Oct 23, 2013 23:18 ET
Quote from message by SmokesLetsGo
I like to think that there is a certain sanctity to the game, where shit decisions by bad league leadership can't truly ruin its game at the core, but moreso showcase their disrespect for the game that they are ruining. A hit like this is still a clean hit just as it always has been, and a Shanaban-joke of a decision does not have the power to change that.
This is a frustrating attitude. The reason hits like this used to be clean was because we weren't aware of the permanent brain damage players suffer later on in life from these hits.

The NHL needs to be cleaned up, that's for sure. But not in the same way you're thinking.
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SmokesLetsGo
Oct 23, 2013 23:21 ET
These are adult professional athletes who are paid handsomely to play a game that they have played for their entire lives. There is not a single player at ANY higher level of hockey who does not know the risks involved in stepping on the ice, and it should not be the responsibility of the sport itself to protect them from a decision that they willingly made.

SKATE AT YOUR OWN RISK. KEEP YOUR HEAD UP.
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MilanLuchicken
Oct 23, 2013 23:23 ET
Quote from message by owenfinn16
Not even close lucic elbow as down. Get a clue
Nice grammar, tough guy.
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steezyjeeves
Oct 23, 2013 23:24 ET
This is a joke. If Steven Stamkos himself threw this exact same hit on Frazer McLaren I'd be just as upset as I am now.

There's not place for these hits in hockey.

And I'm not drawing my generalizations (which I know they are) out of thin air. I've been a regular poster on this site for a couple years, and a lurker for a few seasons before that. Many posters here respect that player safety needs to come first, but there are many more who don't feel that way. It's not that I think that people can't advocate for both physical play and skill, it's that it simply isn't the case on this site.

People praise hits like this, which are taking young, talented players out of the game
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blizzard77
Oct 23, 2013 23:31 ET
I think if John Scott kept his elbows tight to his body and followed through Eriksson's body, Eriksson would have been injured even worse. This hit deserves a suspension.Reply
SmokesLetsGo
Oct 23, 2013 23:33 ET
Well I suppose it all depends on your view of the game.

You are obviously the type who places the individuals above all, the "mother-mentality" so to speak.

I myself, and many others like me who have been around the game for awhile, believe that no individual player, be it the greatest player in the game or a healthy-scratch, comes above the sanctity of the sport itself.

Injuries are part of contact sports, and the ability to preserve yourself through it is a matter or talent/luck, much like any other aspect of a career.
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Drunk247
Oct 23, 2013 23:58 ET
Nice hit by Scott. Great timing by a guy like Scott to not miss and end up out of position, he squared up to Loui and kept his elbow tucked, tried to lower the shoulder and Eriksson tried to move at the last second so the point of contact was somewhere between the elbow and shoulder but the elbow was tucked. Good hit by Scott. Keep your head up Louie. Nice to see Scott not being easily ignored against Boston. If noboby wants to fight him, it gives him a free pass to run guys and he landed a good solid body check here and shook Eriksson up with it, forcing McQuaid to step up and try and address him. An all around great job by John Scott on this shift so kudos to him.

Smokes Lets Go has been spot on with his posts in the debate here and it's a shame to see the mis guided bleeding hearts that accept and endorse the decling state of the game are even starting to infiltrate the fight boards these days. Any real hockey fan who played real hockey or even grew up watching real hockey knows there was nothing wrong with or dirty about that hit in the least. The first thing you learn when Contact is introduced is to always keep your head up. He didn't and the size mismatch between the hitter and the hitee made for an awkward collision where Eriksson got steamrolled. That's what can and should happen when youstop to admire a pass against a team playing an aggressive game and finishing their checks. Lesson learned for Loui and a nice hit by John Scott. I'm no Scott fan and have been accused of being a hater of his in the past. I wouldn't say I hate the guy but I am definately not a big fan of his, however I do think you gotta give credit where credit is due and that was a nice hit by Scott on Eriksson.

There was contact to the head so no doubt they'll make up some ridiculous suspension on reputation but that was a clean hit and a good hit. Suspensions are stupid and do nothing to curb headshots or dirty play as evidenced as expected with fights being down and injuries due to cheap shots on the rise. Shanny can't even keep up with the reviewable footage and the stretchers are out once or twice a week so far this season. Fightings down though. So is emotion, passion and overall interest on the part of many of the longest standing fans left supporting the game. Ironic isn't it?
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Bupz91
Oct 24, 2013 00:09 ET
I would have never thought in 2006 when I joined this site that in 2013 there would be people on here moaning about how they watch hockey for the play by play action and passing. We all do buddy, but some of us like hitting and fighting. It's called drop your gloves for a reason. If you don't like hitting, GTFO.Reply
DerDiggler
Oct 24, 2013 00:21 ET
You can like all aspects of the game. Even though this is a site logging hits, fights and other similar events, the GAME will always be the most important part of the GAME. That point gets lost a lot here.Reply
AnThEm13
Oct 24, 2013 00:34 ET
Great hit, it seems like forever since someone on the Bruins was the recipient of a crushing clean hit.Reply
steezyjeeves
Oct 24, 2013 00:48 ET
Quote from message by DerDiggler
You can like all aspects of the game. Even though this is a site logging hits, fights and other similar events, the GAME will always be the most important part of the GAME. That point gets lost a lot here.
This is a great way to put it.
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TieDomiFan
Oct 24, 2013 02:59 ET
Damn, I hope Scott is not gonna be suspended for 10 or more games, because he would be unable to play against the Leafs on Nov.15 ... btw Shanahan sucksReply
PhillyGuy
Oct 24, 2013 06:32 ET
He shouldn't be suspended at all. I hate Scott but this hit wasn't dirtyReply
Bupz91
Oct 24, 2013 07:54 ET
so why would you go on a site that focuses on hits and fights and complain about them? You can have your own opinion about the play, but going around insulting people's intelligence regarding how they feel about the hit isn't right either. That's what I see a lot more of now. If you want, review it, say it's dirty, whatever but I don't understand going on here and ranting about how John Scott is a worthless goon, or that he took out another star player. The people that believe that see it, it's very aggravating to get on here and read reviews that have this as being an 8 dirty and saying John Scott is a piece of garbage and how he's ruining star players chances at being successful. It's the same thing as if this fight logged 2 minute minor penalties, the results would just be people who see the call one way, and people who thought the refs blew it. It's a fact of life, to get on the board and read people insulting others regarding the enjoyment of hitting and fighting for like 20 posts takes away from the GAME for me. The GAME is important, but I wouldn't go on to a site that tracks goals and assists and complain about how the sticks are curved too heavily.Reply
timperley
Oct 24, 2013 08:19 ET
It just looked to me like Loui had his head down and got caught by a much taller player which made this look worse than what alot of people are saying here, that being said i do think John Scott is a douche anyways and have no clue what the Sabres are trying to prove even having him take up a roster spot especially in this day and age of hockey.Reply
KarlRacki
Oct 24, 2013 08:48 ET
Quote from message by steezyjeeves
This is a joke. If Steven Stamkos himself threw this exact same hit on Frazer McLaren I'd be just as upset as I am now.

There's not place for these hits in hockey.

And I'm not drawing my generalizations (which I know they are) out of thin air. I've been a regular poster on this site for a couple years, and a lurker for a few seasons before that. Many posters here respect that player safety needs to come first, but there are many more who don't feel that way. It's not that I think that people can't advocate for both physical play and skill, it's that it simply isn't the case on this site.

People praise hits like this, which are taking young, talented players out of the game
Not only is the NHL going pussy, the fight fan base is too.

Sadly say good bye to another guy that was worth watching a game for. Scott will be done in Buffalo and probably waived.
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tampa22
Oct 24, 2013 09:49 ET
steezyjeeves go to work for Yzerman, people like you destroy the NHL. I'm tired of cryers, if you don't like hockey with fights, hits and scrums go to watch baseball. This is not a site for you, find a website of euro hockey.Reply
michiann
Oct 24, 2013 10:14 ET
You should have heard Mike Milbury rant & rave & cry heavily about this incident. Milbury re-acted to this incident as if someone just killed his own mother. I mean you can complain about this incident but Milbury cried for at least an hour on television about how Scott should get the electric chair for this, and that Scott's coach should be penalized also.Reply
steezyjeeves
Oct 24, 2013 11:43 ET
Quote from message by tampa22
steezyjeeves go to work for Yzerman, people like you destroy the NHL. I'm tired of cryers, if you don't like hockey with fights, hits and scrums go to watch baseball. This is not a site for you, find a website of euro hockey.
LOL. Try reading my comments before posting bud. I am a huge fan of hits and fights in hockey. They are a compliment to the game.

I am NOT a fan of dangerous headshots.
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steezyjeeves
Oct 24, 2013 11:49 ET
Oh and by the way boys, Scott is going to have an in-person hearing. This means the suspension will likely be 6+ games.Reply
Bupz91
Oct 24, 2013 13:17 ET
I was unaware Brendan Shanahan had forgotten his playing days and read the DYG boards while listening to Mike Milbury. ThanksReply
michiann
Oct 24, 2013 16:23 ET
Quote from message by Bupz91
I was unaware Brendan Shanahan had forgotten his playing days and read the DYG boards while listening to Mike Milbury. Thanks
I don't hate Shanahan for administering penalties to the players for cheap shots, that's his job, and somebody has to do it. But I'll never forgive him for stealing Craig Janney's wife, that's sneaky & heartless.
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Bupz91
Oct 24, 2013 17:11 ET
I was referring to him saying that it was going to be an in person hearing. It was pretty obvious by all of the hype on here and in the media.Reply
SmokesLetsGo
Oct 24, 2013 18:56 ET
It is nice to see that there are atleast a few other posters on here who have either stepped on ice before or watched hockey prior to 2010.

Clean hit.
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TheDanLine
Oct 24, 2013 19:02 ET
Go read a couple of the reviews on the Lindros-Dackell hit.Reply
AnThEm13
Oct 26, 2013 20:07 ET
I have to say: I support John Scott wholeheartedly. The Bruins have gotten away with that kind of BS for far too long and it's immensely satisfying to see them get a taste of their own medicine.

They hold no moral ground whatsoever, considering how they have basically cheap-shotted and dived their way to a Stanley cup and have taken advantage of the NHL's corrupt officials like no other team.

So they should sit down, shut up, and take it on the chin. If they don't, then they'll come out of this looking like a bunch of whiney little hypocrites.

This type of hit wouldn't be looked at twice if it was made by Chara. I hope to see more of these hits on Bruins players.
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chrisY2J
Oct 27, 2013 00:06 ET
This wasn't as dirty a hit as some are making it out to be.

LATENESS: Not really. Eriksson chipped the puck into the Sabre zone and Scott hit him one second later. This was not a late hit.

CHARGING: Not at all. Scott was cruising at Eriksson already and took no extra strides at him.

ELBOW: Negative. It was Scott's shoulder that caught Eriksson, not his elbow. Scott had his elbow lowered as he made the hit. The shoulder connected. Scott lifted his arm up on the follow-through, nothing more.

BLOW TO THE HEAD: Yes, it was Eriksson's face that took the brunt of the blow. Was Scott deliberately aiming for his head? I don't know; only Scott could tell you for sure. I believe he wanted to deliver a big check and jolt Eriksson, but probably had no intention of concussing him. But when the hitter is 6'8", this could happen easily.

This hit is considered "dirty" only in today's watered-down NHL. This type of hit is what guys like Scott Stevens and Wendel Clark built their careers on. Back then, people called most of those guys' hits "hard, but clean". If John Scott did what he did to Eriksson under the way the game was back in the 80s and 90s, there'd be no complaints.

Now, just watch the National Hypocrisy League dish out a ten game suspension... just because he is John Scott.
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chrisY2J
Oct 27, 2013 10:19 ET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYQf9cxzJFg

Here is Scott Stevens' hit on Slava Kozlov from 1995. To me, it's a similar type of hit to John Scott's hit on Eriksson.

The announcers call Stevens' hit a "clean hit" and "an NHL hit".

John Scott is called a "predator", a "goon", and his hit was a "cheap shot".

What hypocrisy. I am appalled at the reaction by Mike Milbury, Keith Jones, and posters on this site who call this hit by John Scott a cheap shot.

The NHL I grew up watching is dead.
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BattleshipRules
Oct 27, 2013 11:05 ET
I think the hit was more of a borderline shot. It looked to me like Scott tageted the upper sternum with the hit. The end result was that Eriksson was hurt badly. I don't think he was looking to target the head, but the damage was done.

This reminds me of some of the high speed hits to the upper sternum that Luke Richardson used to dish out. They are borderline hits, but I don't think Scott was trying to deliberately target the head.

The game is evolving and head injuries are in focus. I don't like the fact that the calls by the NHL office are inconsistent. If Eriksson does not end up with a concussion, there is likely no controversy. The league should be more proactive like football in clearly communicating what types of hits are acceptable and which ones are not.

I don't think it is fair to villify Scott as a goon for trying to make principal contact with the upper sternum. This type of hit is borderline because the whiplash motion of the blow can cause a serious injury. I just think the league is not consistent with these calls and is reactive. A similar hit that doesn't cause an injury would likely go under the radar. If such a hit is going to be outlawed, everybody should know what criteria makes the blow to be unacceptable. This is kind of like the defenseless receiver in football. We may not like that type of rule change, but at least players and fans know why a call is made.
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BattleshipRules
Oct 27, 2013 11:08 ET
I also don't like guys like Milbury acting with mock outrage. He was a dirty player who would have had no trouble hitting a guy like that back in the day. He is not some superior guy from a moral standpoint who should be lecturing us. How about not grabbing a kid on the ice in a pee wee game or going into the stands and hitting a guy with a shoe. He is a hypocrite and a phony.Reply
TheDanLine
Oct 27, 2013 11:26 ET
Read some of the comments on the Lindros-Dackell hit.Reply
Boreal
Oct 27, 2013 11:45 ET
I'd agree with this being a borderline shot. However, in my opinion Scott targeted the head, making it a blatant cheap hit. Had Scott not targeted the head, the 7 rating I put would probably be down to a 5 or mabye even a 4. But when you deliberately target the head, an area in which you can do the most damage on a hit, that is inexcuseable. That being said, while the hit was dirty and Scott deserves a suspension, the league is probably going to pull out some ridiculous twenty game ban to add on the three games Scott will miss before his hearing.Reply
chrisY2J
Oct 27, 2013 15:55 ET
I don't think he was going for the head, truthfully. But the speed Scott was moving at made delivering a completely accurate body-to-body check a difficult task. That, and the height differential.

Mike Milbury says things like "Scott doesn't belong in the league" and calls him a "joke". You want a joke, Mike? Take a look at your performance as a General Manager. THAT'S a joke. Milbury belongs behind a microphone as much as he belongs at the top of a pro hockey organization.
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BattleshipRules
Oct 27, 2013 16:12 ET
JetsFan,

I wouldn't change your review at all. You are calling the incident like you see it and don't need to alter a thing. Obviously, the hit is up high and damage to the head was done. You got a three star review based on your call. Stick with it.

Some experienced hockey fans may see it a little differently, but your opinion is as valid as anyone's.
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BattleshipRules
Oct 27, 2013 16:14 ET
Milbury is a huge loser. He acts like the ultimate tough guy behind the microphone, but check out his performance when Mel Bridgman challenged him to a fight. He looked like he was going to soil himself.Reply
Boreal
Oct 27, 2013 17:05 ET
Quote from message by BattleshipRules
JetsFan,

I wouldn't change your review at all. You are calling the incident like you see it and don't need to alter a thing. Obviously, the hit is up high and damage to the head was done. You got a three star review based on your call. Stick with it.

Some experienced hockey fans may see it a little differently, but your opinion is as valid as anyone's.
Thanks for the advice Battleship. I decided to bump the dirty rating down a 7 as I don't think Scott was really looking to hurt Loui but I'll still say the hit was dirty and Scott deserves a suspension, just not as lengthy as the I think the NHL will give him.
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DerDiggler
Dec 16, 2013 14:41 ET
Quote from message by BattleshipRules
I also don't like guys like Milbury acting with mock outrage. He was a dirty player who would have had no trouble hitting a guy like that back in the day. He is not some superior guy from a moral standpoint who should be lecturing us. How about not grabbing a kid on the ice in a pee wee game or going into the stands and hitting a guy with a shoe. He is a hypocrite and a phony.
I think Milbury's main issue is the fact he was truly an awful fighter. All the beatings he took after acting tough changed his views on how necessary rough play/fighting is to the game.

Guess he also forgets beating a fan in the stands with his own shoe. What a joke this guy turned into. Can't imagine he has any respect left among former/current players.
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DerDiggler
Dec 16, 2013 14:43 ET
Let me put it this way: Gregory Campbell is one of the worst fighters I've seen, and he would absolutely dummy Milbury on his best day.Reply
DerDiggler
Mar 27, 2014 09:49 ET
Steezy, I couldn't agree more with you. Most people here don't know or care much about the game of hockey. They're only reason for watching a 60 minute game is for 20 seconds of fighting. It is frustrating, but not much real fans can do about it. The way I look at it, if fighting was outlawed tomorrow, they would never watch another game, and that would be fine.Reply
steezyjeeves
Mar 27, 2014 18:32 ET
Quote from message by DerDiggler
Steezy, I couldn't agree more with you. Most people here don't know or care much about the game of hockey. They're only reason for watching a 60 minute game is for 20 seconds of fighting. It is frustrating, but not much real fans can do about it. The way I look at it, if fighting was outlawed tomorrow, they would never watch another game, and that would be fine.
Refreshing to see someone on here hold a logical opinion!
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DerDiggler
Mar 28, 2014 08:37 ET
Chris, to be fair Scott Stevens was a very cheap and dirty player. The only reason he was able to play his style was the fact he NEVER had the puck for more than a second and never had to worry about retaliation. If you get a chance, go back and watch some old games and watch how he played hot potato with the puck. He was an absolute fraud and also a punching bag.Reply
chrisY2J
Mar 28, 2014 21:25 ET
Well, perhaps "absolute fraud" is a bit strong, but I agree that Stevens was dirty and opportunistic, always looking to injure unsuspecting opponents by deliberately targeting the head when they have no clue who is homing in on them.

That, and he would sometimes allow his teammates to do his fighting for him.

Scott Stevens was a fearsome physical defenseman, but people often completely overlook his dirtiness.
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 BattleshipRules
12647 fight reviews

Oct 24, 2013 18:47 ET
Draw Fun 
3
John Scott lined up Loui Eriksson with a damaging hit to the upper sternum and sent him sprawling on the ice. McQuaid went right after Scott and started to throw right hands. He landed a decent blow and a partial connect. He missed a punch.

Scott got his bearings and pinned Adam up against the boards. He landed a couple of light right hands and missed a punch. He didn't have quite enough room to get his arms extended, but he was throwing shots and trying to make it a fight.

McQuaid decided to stop, drop, and roll on the ice. He caught Scott by surprise with the move. The big man went down and Adam had his hand cocked and ready to land a shot. John was trying to get his equilibrium and continue fighting. An official intercepted McQuaid's punch and the fight was over.

I rate this fight as a draw. McQuaid landed a couple of blows with limited effectiveness and Scott did the same. Adam deserves some credit for taking on the big man in the aftermath of the devastating borderline hit on Eriksson. However, he fell a bit in my estimation by the way he handled himself in the scrap.

First, McQuaid tried to get the upper hand by getting the jump on Scott. He got the first couple of blows in. John got into the fight and was starting to land punches. Neither man was able to land any solid punches in the early going. Adam tried to rely on the element of deception to gain any type of edge. His drop-down move was a tactic not approved in the fighter's code. I don't think he was entirely bailing on the bout, but he was clearly using an underhanded type of tactic. He was looking to land blows after the takedown, but the refs have been quick to stop fights lately in the aftermath of the Orr-Parros bout.

I don't like the approach McQuaid employed in this fight. I don't think he was confident he could beat the mammoth super heavyweight in a traditional contest. He wanted to use subterfuge to gain an edge. If Adam was going to challenge the big man, I think he should have used legitimate fighting tactics and not tried to rely on a smoke-and-mirrors attack.

I am critical of McQuaid in this instance, but I like his overall game. He is a solid fighter who is quick to jump in and protect a teammate. He is not a primary enforcer and is not as good a fighter as Thornton and Lucic. Adam doesn't fight a lot of NHL heavyweights and this has been noted and criticized.

McQuaid is a pretty good defenseman who is a capable fighter. Many of his fights come in the context of the game. He is not looking to slug it out with the top heavyweight with whatever team he faces. He has answered the bell when challenged at times in the past. However, he blew it in this matchup with Scott. He did the right thing by sticking up for a teammate and taking him on. He did the wrong thing by resorting to a shady tactic and giving some viability to the idea that he was bailing from meaningful combat.

I think McQuaid is a better-than-average NHL fighter. He is not a top enforcer. He needs to perform better in bouts with guys like Scott to make the case that he is one of the upper-echelon fighters in the NHL. He dropped the ball here and deserves criticism. This is coming from a guy who likes Adam, has met him in person, and appreciates what he offers to the team. McQuaid is an asset to his team and is a competent player and fighter. He would have earned more of my respect if he lost the fight or went down swinging.
 SarcasticPillow
19579 fight reviews
137 fight logs

Oct 23, 2013 23:02 ET
Draw Fun 
2
John Scott levels Loui Eriksson after he dumps the puck into the offensive zone and Eriksson is injured. Adam McQuaid goes right after Scott and they drop the gloves along the endboards. McQuaid gets in tight on the far bigger Scott and throws three rights, landing one before being wrestled against the boards by Scott. Scott then throws five rights, landing four softly to the helmet before missing two rights as McQuaid drops to the ice while pulling Scott down too. The linesmen come in and break it up as McQuaid gets up. McQuaid stepped in and took on Scott for his hit on Eriksson but McQuaid only threw a few punches before going for the takedown. Scott only got off a handful of punches before he was hauled down by McQuaid. Draw.
 EC
4055 fight reviews
1 fight log

May 30, 2015 09:30 ET
Draw Fun 
3
John Scott absolutely levels Loui Eriksson at center ice. Eriksson stays down and is hurt. Boston defenseman Adam McQuaid quickly goes after Scott in retaliation for the hit. McQuaid gets in two short rights. He then hangs on to the bigger Scott who gets his arm free. Scott connects with three short rights to the back of McQuaid's head. McQuaid decides to end the fight before he takes some serious damage and he throws Scott down to the ice.

Ever since John Scott KO'd Shawn Thornton, the Boston Bruins wanted nothing to do with him. McQuaid dropped the gloves here because there had to be a response but he really didn't want anything to do with big John. Later on in the season no Bruin would challenge Scott again to answer for the heavy hit. I find that interesting because Boston is a team with several tough players but they all appeared to be intimidated by John Scott.

The reason Scott was brought into Buffalo was to provide them with toughness against teams like Boston who had roughed up Buffalo frequently in the past. Now the tables are turned and Scott took out one of the Bruins with a hit but very little was done about it. This is one of the reasons why Boston gets criticized. They act tough against teams they can intimidate but sometimes shy away against teams that do have toughness. Scott's presence clearly had an impact on both the Sabres, Bruins, and their rivalry which demonstrates the importance of an enforcer.

As for the fight itself, it is a draw in a crap fight as both men got in a few weak punches before McQuaid bailed out.
 Drunk247
300 fight reviews

Oct 24, 2013 00:20 ET
John Scott clear win Fun 
5
Can't tell if Scott dropped Quaider with that body shot or if McQuaid just took a dive realizing he was in over his head. I think the body shot actually let the air out of McQuaid and Caused him to fall but he's a strong fucker cause he drug Scott down with him with a bit of a flip. He wasn't able to pounce on him for a late one though, as I think that body shot Scott hit him with let the air out of him.

Not much of a fight, but great emotion shown here which moves it from a three to a five for me. Scott hasn't been able to get a Bruin to fight him since he demolished Thornton, so with his team down 4-2 instead of sitting idle, he imposes his physical will on the Bruins and lands a beautiful open ice hit on Eriksson who gets caught in the trolly tracks admiring his pass and pays for it. Then McQuaid, who I'm a big fan of and have often defended against accusations of "spot picker" steps up without hesitation and goes right after the big man in defense of his teammate so kudos to Adam for that. I don't think he bailed, I think the body shot let the air out of him and knocked him down and that can happen. His intentions here were good and I think he just got paralyzed for a second with a well placed body shot.

McQuaid fires three short rights, then Scott answers with three short rights, none of which land very well or have much on em for either guy. Scott then throws a right to the body and McQuaid goes down hard but hangs onto Scott and drags him down and over top of him ending the fight before it really got started. I think the body shot dropped McQuaid, so I would give the Win to Scott.
Murray3
5949 fight reviews

Oct 23, 2013 22:37 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Win McQuaid? Are ou kidding? He didn't do anything. And he bailed out of the fight.
sadcbjfan
5446 fight reviews

Oct 23, 2013 22:39 ET
Draw Fun 
3
KingsFan1980
114 fight reviews

Oct 23, 2013 22:40 ET
Draw Fun 
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WanderingEye
1759 fight reviews
4 fight logs

Oct 23, 2013 22:45 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Scott smashed Eriksson in the head with an open ice hit that will almost certainly result in a suspension. McQuaid goes after him. As they lock up McQuaid throws a few quick rights but is swung into the boards by Scott. Scott throws some harmless short rights to the helmet in response and this is McQuaid's cue to bail out, falling backwards and dragging Scott down rather violently in the process.

Scott's first action of the season (and probably last for a while) but nothing to see here.
steezyjeeves
1276 fight reviews

Oct 23, 2013 22:55 ET
Draw Fun 
3
SmokesLetsGo
5262 fight reviews

Oct 23, 2013 22:57 ET
Draw Fun 
3
-boltsnation-
660 fight reviews

Oct 23, 2013 23:01 ET
Draw Fun 
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Snowflake24
476 fight reviews

Oct 24, 2013 00:47 ET
Draw Fun 
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TieDomiFan
2388 fight reviews

Oct 24, 2013 02:30 ET
Draw Fun 
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LOOCH17
90 fight reviews

Oct 24, 2013 02:37 ET
Draw Fun 
3
John Scott came across with a dirty hit on Louie Ericksson, as Scott was skating away McQuaid jumps him and they both glide to the boards and McQuaid throws three punches, two of which connect. Scott then gets McQuaid against the boards and throws 5 short light punches to the back of the helmet of McQuaid and then goes for a body shot before McQuaid flips him over.

Draw, too few punches thrown for a winner to be decided. Good job by McQuaid for taking on the bigger Scott to avenge his teammate.
mullet
19571 fight reviews

Oct 24, 2013 04:52 ET
Draw Fun 
2
Rango38
1568 fight reviews

Oct 24, 2013 07:14 ET
Draw Fun 
3
Not a good fight here. McQuaid took exception to Scott's late hit on Erikson, but there was not enough action in this fight to give either player an edge - draw.
NHLFAN4LIFE
262 fight reviews

Oct 24, 2013 07:42 ET
Draw Fun 
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TheDanLine
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Oct 24, 2013 07:53 ET
Draw Fun 
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Oct 24, 2013 11:19 ET
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KidRoberts
537 fight reviews

Oct 24, 2013 13:49 ET
Adam McQuaid narrow win Fun 
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michiann
3652 fight reviews

Oct 24, 2013 19:18 ET
Draw Fun 
N/A
Starts when John Scott hits Loui Eriksson in the head during play, so McQuaid plays enforcer and climbs on Scott. At first, the camera view is far away and we see McQuaid throwing 2 swings that either hit the helmet or face of Scott. Scott quickly follows that up by connecting on 2 or 3 helmetpunches and then Scott fires another swing in mid-air while both guys are falling down to the ice but we cannot see if it connects or not. McQuaid may have intentionally dragged Scott down with him in order to truncate the fight prematurely which is a demerit in my book, but overall, draw to narrow win for Scott.
FightsOfHockey
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Oct 24, 2013 22:53 ET
John Scott clear win Fun 
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crosbyXXX
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Nov 14, 2013 17:15 ET
Draw Fun 
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Nov 17, 2013 17:04 ET
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DerDiggler
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Mar 28, 2014 08:41 ET
John Scott narrow win Fun 
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Apr 13, 2014 23:08 ET
Adam McQuaid narrow win Fun 
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NHLFAN4LIFE
Oct 23, 2013 22:13 ET
Not a fight no fighting majorsReply
kmyeakel
Oct 23, 2013 22:15 ET
Mcquaid got the instigator package
Scott got majors for charging and fighting and a game
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NHLFAN4LIFE
Oct 23, 2013 22:15 ET
Quote from message by NHLFAN4LIFE
Not a fight no fighting majors
Sorry guys refs changed their minds it appers
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kmyeakel
Oct 23, 2013 22:15 ET
Quote from message by NHLFAN4LIFE
Not a fight no fighting majors
thanks for that. I goofed up on my part.
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McIver45
Oct 23, 2013 22:19 ET
Lucic and McQuid haters are like a broken record: spot picker, spot picker....
to bad a good site gets wrecked by mental midgets........
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bradu
Oct 23, 2013 22:29 ET
Good on McQuaid for going after Scott...but to play devil's advocate here, McQuaid showed definite fear in this fight. He went right after Scott, got a couple shots in, and when Scott started punching back, McQuaid bailed out and pulled Scott to the ice. Not to say I blame him, but it's not like he went in and went toe to toe with the big oaf.Reply
DerDiggler
Oct 23, 2013 22:31 ET
Sounds like the script of every Chara fight. He's learning from the master if bailing.Reply
Anthony19
Oct 23, 2013 22:44 ET
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TheDanLine
Oct 23, 2013 22:57 ET
Are you insinuating that Chara isn't a bailer?Reply
SmokesLetsGo
Oct 23, 2013 22:59 ET
I agree, definitely looked like McQuaid bailed there. Im not a McQuaid-hater at all, and I don't even necessarily blame him for doing it. There are very many in the league that really want to stand and trade punches with John Scott.Reply
DerDiggler
Oct 23, 2013 23:03 ET
Scott was lightly pawing him in the head, McQuaid knew he was about to get unloaded on. Not only did he bail, he tried to drop straight down to the ice but Scott was too strong. His only resort was to spin out and take Scott down.Reply
SmokesLetsGo
Oct 23, 2013 23:06 ET
Like I said though, can't blame him for not wanting to catch the impending beat-down from Scott. He's busted-up some tough customers in his time.Reply
DerDiggler
Oct 23, 2013 23:08 ET
I agree. There's really no reason for McQuaid to be fighting heavies anyway. He's just not in that class of fighter, he's way too light for his height. I give him credit for going after Scott for the hit and he hung in pretty well.Reply
DerDiggler
Oct 23, 2013 23:21 ET
Whoever deleted the 2 homer reviews, good job.

Pretty suspicious when the only 2 people posting a win for McQuaid have less than 49 combined reviews. Especially when one of their profiles shows a bias for the Bruins.
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DerDiggler
Oct 23, 2013 23:22 ET
Less than 40 actually.Reply
SmokesLetsGo
Oct 23, 2013 23:23 ET
Or just have a mirror-site, and have one for Boston fans and the other for everyone else. That would work as well.Reply
ytownhockey10
Oct 23, 2013 23:28 ET
Quote from message by KidRoberts
A bias review? I can't stand the Bruins. I dislike everything Boston. I thought that McQuaid got a few shots in. I guess opinions aren't well-liked.
good luck with this crowd.
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Psicosis
Oct 24, 2013 00:19 ET
I never thought Mcquaid was a spot picker.Reply
Psicosis
Oct 24, 2013 00:20 ET
Quote from message by SmokesLetsGo
I agree, definitely looked like McQuaid bailed there. Im not a McQuaid-hater at all, and I don't even necessarily blame him for doing it. There are very many in the league that really want to stand and trade punches with John Scott.
Obviously it is tough, but I agree with you.
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LukeLaC
Oct 24, 2013 06:07 ET
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thegreatone
Oct 24, 2013 15:31 ET
then i guess you havent seen him clearly run away from colton orr and some other heavyweights in the league. the thing is too, although orr is much tougher and has fought and beaten legit heavies, he is really not that much bigger than mcquaid. mcquaid is a spotpicker just like his buddy lucic.Reply
LOOCH17
Oct 24, 2013 16:42 ET
Clear win Scott, your having a laugh right??Reply
TheDanLine
Oct 24, 2013 16:58 ET
That clear win is way off. Drunk has had some goofy reviews.Reply
Psicosis
Oct 24, 2013 19:18 ET
Lucic is a huge spot picker, but I see Mcquaid as more of a defensive defenseman who can fight. it isn't really his role. I don't even have a dog in this fight. I don't care about Mcquaid or any Bruin for that matter.Reply
thegreatone
Oct 25, 2013 17:26 ET
well mark fraser is basically the same player as mcquaid but fraser gave him a beating but my point is mark fraser isnt a heavyweight fighter and he still stepped up and fought thornton last year and did really well. mcquaid would never fight orr.Reply
Psicosis
Oct 26, 2013 02:22 ET
I 100% agree.Reply
DerDiggler
Dec 16, 2013 14:45 ET
How the hell is this fight a draw still? Lol. McQuaid did nothing, and bailed as much as you can in a fight without turtling.Reply
mullet
Dec 16, 2013 16:45 ET
Haha. Why did you call it a draw then? Here's your review:

"Shitty fight. McQuaid lands a couple, Scott lands a couple back. Then McQuaid bails and takes Scott down. Draw"
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DerDiggler
Dec 17, 2013 00:44 ET
I was leaning towards giving it to Scott strictly because of the way McQuaid bailed. IMO Scott won the fight due to this, but not by site rules.Reply

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